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Date: Fri Apr 11 2003 - 11:28:51 EDT
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There are 13 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: MISC freques
From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
2. inversion/ducting
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
3. Re: Ambulance UHF frequencies
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
4. Re: Toronto Scanner Dump
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
5. Re: Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
6. 782D system/cell phones?
From: "Terry" <vfr99_2001@yahoo.com>
7. Re: Ambulance UHF frequencies
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
8. Re: Ministry of Natural Resources
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
9. RE: 782D system/cell phones?
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
10. RE: Ministry of Natural Resources
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
11. Frequency counter?
From: Greg Dell <gregdell@yahoo.com>
12. Re: 782D system/cell phones?
From: "va3wxm" <va3wxm@sympatico.ca>
13. Re: MISC freques
From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:30:06 -0400
From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: MISC freques
As far as UPS, in Fort Erie at the Peace Bridge they have around 20 truck
docks and the people who load their trucks use
462.7125 CH7 FRS RADIO UPS FT. ERIE
467.6375 CH11 FRS RADIO UPS FT. ERIE
ALSO
Airplanes
129.4250 UPS BUFALO./ HAMILTON
----- Original Message -----
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
> Would UPS or Fed EX use something like this? I have heard a company using
things like "dispatch from 162 I am clear at 17:23 with 2" and "car 238 I'm
out with pick-up at Kincardine depot"...anyone ever hear UPS or any of the
big parcel carriers?
> -John
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:37:29 -0400
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: inversion/ducting
Are the conditions right for this tonight on VHF hi? Does anyone know of a web site maybe for hams that tracks band openings?
Coming out of Georgian Downs (just South of Barrie) about 20:30 tonight I heard the OPP marker signal on 141.72 and a few comms but couldn't hear them well enough to catch a location.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 22:02:27 -0400
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
Subject: Re: Ambulance UHF frequencies
Well thanks for pointing out the fact about my replies...being as I cannot
see the messages with my eyes...I am using a screen reader...so I shall just
trim the messages off.
> John, I don't know if anyone has pointed it out to you but it's pretty
hard
> to find your replies to messages. Try to leave some space between your
> reply and the text your are quoting. Or better yet, strip out all the
crap
> which doesn't need to be requoted.
> As far as hearing Georgian, does Georgian even dispatch anywhere close to
> where you are? I thought you were out by Port Elgin and the closest
> Georgian would go is Collingwood.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:36:26 -0400
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Toronto Scanner Dump
On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 06:35 PM, rsh@idirect.com wrote:
> Also get traffic on:
> 423.6375 Run in from Warden, etc. at 6:32PM
> 423.7125 Black cell phone turned in today... at 6:30PM
> 428.3375
> 422.0875
423.6375 is TTC CIS (570 Wilson Ave.)
423.7125 is TTC CIS (3050 Pharmacy Ave.)
428.3375 would be the input (busses) for the CIS data channel on
423.3375 (570 Wilson Ave.)
422.0875 is an RCMP channel and most likely digital.
The addresses are the repeater locations from the government's TAFL
listing.
-- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:42:58 -0400 From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net> Subject: Re: Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS At 10:43 AM 4/10/03 -0700, Greg Dell wrote: >hehe... > >You need equipment that will triangulate their output >radius. > >I wonder if you can make a homemade triangulator with >a reciever that has input levels and a directional >yagi. Of course you will need to make this device >mobile, otherwise you will have to have three units. I'm sure we can come up with at least three mobile setups. I've got a five element beam in the trunk and the IFR is on hot standby. If the perps need any coaxing, the 1550 is tuned up and ready to blast 'em (good for about 30W). So when's the party? ...Andy ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:26:41 -0000 From: "Terry" <vfr99_2001@yahoo.com> Subject: 782D system/cell phones? This week i have been in London, listening with my 250d and card to the Govt system, mainly OPP. I have noticed many times they want a 10- 21 or a cell phone call. The OPP seem to be using cellphones instead of the radio for some chatter? Is this happening in other area's of this zone1? Regards, Terry ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 00:51:03 -0400 From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com> Subject: Re: Ambulance UHF frequencies The UHF Links that I was referring to that I could hear Georgian Dispatch and Kingston Dispatch were on 410.8375 (PL 203.5 I think if not 162.2) I believe this is located in Foymount as well as maybe a few other locations to, which is quite high on a mountain. I can hear this repeater pretty much throughout the southern eastern portion of the county which I'm in. I'm pretty sure though that it was simulcasting prov. comm. 150.1 but I could be wrong, however, I have monitored the Helicopter at great distances on here. I've also heard Ottawa Dispatch on here as well. One of the other reasons that I hear dispatch so well is well, It's located in Renfrew (Renfrew CACC) and they also dispatch for Fire in the county. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Jones To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Scanont] Ambulance UHF frequencies on 4/10/03 9:23 PM, John H at sudsyjkh@softhome.net wrote: >> would I be able to monitor the ones that geogion uses? or maybe one of > them?...they must be quite strong, being taht Randy said he could ketch them > from his place. John, I don't know if anyone has pointed it out to you but it's pretty hard to find your replies to messages. Try to leave some space between your reply and the text your are quoting. Or better yet, strip out all the crap which doesn't need to be requoted. I doubt Randy could hear these links from his place. I think he was referring to uhf links that are used out in Renfrew. Most dispatch centres have them. As far as hearing Georgian, does Georgian even dispatch anywhere close to where you are? I thought you were out by Port Elgin and the closest Georgian would go is Collingwood. Try searching between 410 and 420 and see what you come up with. -- Steve sdjones@isys.ca --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 09/04/2003 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 00:56:12 -0400 From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com> Subject: Re: Ministry of Natural Resources Any idea then why when I listen to Fire Op's during the summer, that Pembroke Fire (who dispatches MNR Fire) would refer to 47.07 (MNR Fire) as Ch. 19? Yet in your list I see it as Ch. 18 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Iszak To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: [Scanont] Ministry of Natural Resources Well, I know this has been posted before, but. I just got my hands on a Ministry of Natural Resources Radio, and took a peek at what's programmed in it. Obviously, they will be going to FleetNet, but this is how things are for the time being. As follows: The fields are: CHANNEL...TX...RX...TX PL...RX PL 1 46.62 46.62 110.9 110.9 2 46.64 46.64 110.9 110.9 3 46.68 46.68 110.9 110.9 4 46.70 46.70 110.9 110.9 5 46.72 46.72 110.9 110.9 6 46.74 46.74 110.9 110.9 7 46.78 46.78 110.9 110.9 8 46.82 46.82 110.9 110.9 9 46.33 46.76 110.9 110.9 10 46.28 46.86 110.9 110.9 11 46.88 46.88 110.9 110.9 12 46.52 46.52 110.9 110.9 13 46.48 46.48 110.9 110.9 14 46.56 46.56 110.9 110.9 15 46.54 46.54 110.9 110.9 16 46.66 46.66 110.9 110.9 17 46.76 46.76 110.9 110.9 18 46.37 47.07 110.9 110.9 19 46.54 46.94 110.9 110.9 20 46.45 46.85 110.9 110.9 21 46.45 46.85 110.9 110.9 22 46.37 46.77 110.9 110.9 23 46.43 48.04 110.9 110.9 24 46.47 47.82 110.9 110.9 25 46.38 46.84 110.9 110.9 26 48.12 47.62 110.9 110.9 27 46.42 46.94 110.9 110.9 28 46.44 46.84 110.9 110.9 29 48.16 47.76 110.9 110.9 30 46.46 46.92 110.9 110.9 31 46.49 46.86 110.9 110.9 32 46.80 46.80 110.9 110.9 33 47.13 47.13 110.9 110.9 34 47.15 47.15 110.9 110.9 35 47.86 47.86 110.9 110.9 36 48.08 48.08 110.9 110.9 37 47.17 47.17 110.9 110.9 38 48.16 47.62 110.9 100.0 39 48.12 47.62 110.9 123.0 40 47.19 47.19 110.9 110.9 ----- Mike Iszak, VE3XLS RCC College of Technology 2000 Steeles Avenue West Concord (Toronto), Ontario L4K 4N1 416.721.6698 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 09/04/2003 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 05:56:16 -0400 From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca> Subject: RE: 782D system/cell phones? I was speaking to a London OPP officer about the new system when I was down there. He said the audio quality on the portables is horrific, and that they often end up calling with a cellphone to dispatch. That's probably why you heard this. M ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 05:57:57 -0400 From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca> Subject: RE: Ministry of Natural Resources No idea. I don't know anything about their system, I can just tell you that this is what's programmed in one of their CDM-1250's that's mounted in a helicopter. M ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 06:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Dell <gregdell@yahoo.com> Subject: Frequency counter? Just curious... What equipment do you use to get both TX and RX frequencies? I know frequency counters are a common device but generally register just the TX frequency from a unit being tested. Greg --- Mike Iszak <mike@warpzone.ca> wrote: > No idea. I don't know anything about their system, > I can just tell you > that this is what's programmed in one of their > CDM-1250's that's mounted > in a helicopter. > > > M __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:44:35 -0000 From: "va3wxm" <va3wxm@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: 782D system/cell phones? --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Iszak" <mike@w...> wrote: > I was speaking to a London OPP officer about the new system when I was > down there. He said the audio quality on the portables is horrific, and > that they often end up calling with a cellphone to dispatch. > > That's probably why you heard this. > > > M Well, it's good to see the new gazillion dollar radio system works so well!!! I wonder if it has something to do with the d/a conversion in the car radio (digital on vhf, analog on uhf link to portable)? Just throwing this out here: other than for "security" is there any advantage to using digital audio on the Fleetnet system? It doesn't seem like they're saving radio spectrum space (which I thought was the point of digital in the first place). ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:37:20 -0400 From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com> Subject: Re: MISC freques On April 10, 2003 08:08 pm, John H wrote: > Hi folks: > By using TAFL and just searching up and down the different freque ranges I > have found a bunch that are registered to things like "oxford > communications", "kenair communications", "Midwestern communications", and > "Vanplue electronics"...now I here traffic on these, there are 2 or 3 for > each company. Also, each frequency ahs like 2 or 3 or 4 users or businesses > on them. I suppose these are companies that just sell and maintain the > equipment? I don't suppose there is a way to tell who each user is without > listening to them and trying to figure it out. I have found a couple of > companies that I know, a dead livestock place, a septic tank pumping > service and superior propane...besides that I still can't figure out who > else uses them. Would UPS or Fed EX use something like this? I have heard a > company using things like "dispatch from 162 I am clear at 17:23 with 2" > and "car 238 I'm out with pick-up at Kincardine depot"...anyone ever hear > UPS or any of the big parcel carriers? -John The big parcel companies, have only three reasons to communicate with a driver on the road, to schedule an extra pickup, another delivery attempt, or to find out where the driver is. For scheduling, voice is not a good way to do it, because by the time the driver gets and verifies all of the information, he has wasted a good 3-4 minutes, time he could be servicing customers, there is also the ability that the wrong information can still get across. They often use either text message pagers or the package scanner has a text messaging system built in. The driver then doesn't get the wrong information, and the dispatcher can tap out the message in 5 seconds, rather then 4 minutes of radio clutter. Now what you are probably hearing is same-day couriers, or messanger services. Sometimes the large companies will use them as in-fill drivers, when they can't handle a job with their own people. They don't like doing this, because it's expensive, but they do it on occassion. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! 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