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Date: Tue Apr 08 2003 - 12:08:15 EDT
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
2. Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
3. Re: Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
4. White/Amber Lightbar
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
5. Fw: Industry Canada Modifies Treatment of Enhanced Specialized Mobile Radio under the Spectrum Cap
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
6. Toronto Fire units
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
7. Re: Toronto Fire units
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
8. Re: Toronto Fire units
From: Pete Ivakitsch <canairradio@sympatico.ca>
9. Re: Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
From: Greg Dell <gregdell@yahoo.com>
10. Re: Toronto Fire units
From: Greg Dell <gregdell@yahoo.com>
11. Re: Toronto Fire units
From: Lamar Lugli <medarts@magma.ca>
12. PL Tones Needed
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
13. Re: Traffic Warning Systems
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
14. Re: Traffic Warning Systems
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
15. Re: Traffic Warning Systems
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
16. programming Ontario Fleetnet into PRO-92 scanner
From: "jasonwright03" <jasonwright03@hotmail.com>
17. Re: Toronto Fire units
From: "I Fyt Fyrs" <ifytfyrs@rogers.com>
18. RE: Traffic Warning Systems
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
19. A new monitoring thing....
From: Phil Tucker <phil@substatica.com>
20. Admin: Traffic Warning Systems
From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
21. RE: Admin: Traffic Warning Systems
From: "Greg Kulin" <gkulin@everreddy.com>
22. 3 Transports rolled over- Brantford, Ontario
From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com>
23. Re: programming Ontario Fleetnet into PRO-92 scanner
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
24. Trunk tracking scanner for Ontario
From: "len_dutchman" <len.wiltenburg@sympatico.ca>
25. Re: Trunk tracking scanner for Ontario
From: "va3wxm" <va3wxm@sympatico.ca>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:09:04 -0400
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
Anyone else in West-end Toronto hear the idiots that have been on FRS
lately? They're using these GMRS radios from the States and
transmitting around 2-5 watts on channel one, bragging about how
powerful their signal is, harassing the 'locals' (including children).
and waiting for their 'boosters' to come. A friend of mine pointed them
out to me, and its a hoot to listen to. Not only are they dumb enough
to use their real names, they pretty much give away where they are and
what they use, and they obviously have no clue about radio or anything
like that. Anyone care to go on a foxhunt? :)
I guess if you're gonna be a big-time radio pirate, you might as well
go for broke and take over FRS (shakes head). Yeesh. At least they
lack the brains to be hacking into the police radio system. Someone's
been blasting them with some sort of tone, and that seems to piss them
off. :)
Doesn't matter.. I hear through the grapevine that IC's aware of them
and hopefully they'll be stopped soon.
Grin. Keep playing with your toys, boys - you'll get caught sooner or
later.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 20:45:46 -0000
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
Sound like CB? Could it be the same persons who used to override the
CB channels, especially Ch. 9, when CB was still going strong? And
they were using boosters too.
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Bryan <bryanpass@r...> wrote:
> Anyone else in West-end Toronto hear the idiots that have been on
FRS -------
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:52:48 -0400
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS
> Sound like CB? Could it be the same persons who used to override the
> CB channels, especially Ch. 9, when CB was still going strong? And
> they were using boosters too.
Heheh. I think they are referring to repeaters as 'boosters'.
At least you don't have little kids running around CB, listening to
these idiots asking where their mothers are, etc.
A wannabe's a wannabe. :)
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:48:16 -0400
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: White/Amber Lightbar
I know this is offtopic, so I'll make it quick..
The HTA doesn't have any regulations regarding amber lights, so
therefore, you can do whatever you want with them.
As for white... The only limitation it specifies is that you cannot
have alternating high-beam headlamps. Other than that, it's all good.
So, if you wanted to have white strobes or a white lightbar facing
either the front or the rear, you're okay.
As for red, you cannot have red facing the front or the back. The only
exception to this is brake lights, turn signals and 4-way flashers.
What a lot of people do is set up an alternating flasher to flash the
brake lights, then reverse lights, then brake lights, etc... That is
perfectly legal, because both red lights come on at the same time, just
the same as the 4-way flashers do.
M
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:37:34 -0400
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: Fw: Industry Canada Modifies Treatment of Enhanced Specialized Mobile Radio under the Spectrum Cap
Subject: Industry Canada Modifies Treatment of Enhanced Specialized Mobile
Radio under the Spectrum Cap
> Date: 2003-04-07
>
> OTTAWA, April 7, 2003 -- Industry Canada announced today a change in the
> treatment of individual radio frequencies used for high-mobility telephony
> cellular services, such as Enhanced Specialized Mobile Radio, under the
> mobile spectrum cap policy.
>
> In addition to regular cellular telephone service, Enhanced Specialized
> Mobile Radio offers group calling or radio dispatch, which are features
used
> by many industry groups, including natural resources, construction,
> emergency services and public safety.
>
> Until today, spectrum for this service was treated the same as the
frequency
> block used by cellular and personal communications services. Wireless
> carriers are limited to holding a maximum of 55 megahertz of mobile
spectrum
> according to the 1999 spectrum cap policy
> (http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/sf01937e.html).
>
> In late 2001, Industry Canada was petitioned to modify the treatment of
> Enhanced Specialized Mobile Radio frequencies under the cap due to the
> different nature of the spectrum, as compared to cellular and personal
> communications services. Also, in several cities, demand for Enhanced
> Specialized Mobile Radio service was near exceeding the 55-megahertz
limit.
>
> Having given full consideration to submissions gained from a May 2002
public
> consultation on the matter, Industry Canada has decided to change the
> calculation of discrete frequencies used for high-mobility telephony
> cellular services, such as Enhanced Specialized Mobile Radio. This action
> will enable carriers to devote 10 megahertz of their 55-megahertz cap
toward
> the service. Along with this, carriers will be allowed to add more
Enhanced
> Specialized Mobile Radio spectrum without it counting against the cap.
>
> Through this decision, Industry Canada is enabling Enhanced Specialized
> Mobile Radio and similar services using discrete frequencies to expand and
> meet market demand. This decision supports the Government of Canada's
> commitment to smart regulation made in the Speech from the Throne.
Improving
> regulations helps to sustain economic growth, create jobs and foster
> innovation.
>
> The Canada Gazette announcement regarding these changes can be found
online
> at
>
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/spectrum/engdoc/spect1.html?icservices=e_
> spe.
>
> For more information, please contact:
>
> Selena Beattie
> Office of Allan Rock
> Minister of Industry
> (613) 995-9001
>
> Media Relations
> Industry Canada
> (613) 943-2502
>
--- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 18:00:00 -0400 From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com> Subject: Toronto Fire units What is the difference between a "Squad" unit and a "Rescue" unit. As well, what is the difference between a "Highrise" unit and a "Tower" unit? Keep in mind I come from Peel Region, where there the three main vehicles are Squads, Pumpers and Aerials (grin) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:54:33 -0400 From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Toronto Fire units On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 06:00 PM, Bryan wrote: > What is the difference between a "Squad" unit and a "Rescue" unit. I think the term "Squad" is used for a dedicated rescue truck a.k.a. a "heavy rescue". A "Rescue" unit is a pumper/rescue. Out here in my area the former Etobicoke pumper 8 is now called "Rescue 444". How about a "Quint"? What the heck is that? -- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 20:34:54 -0400 From: Pete Ivakitsch <canairradio@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Toronto Fire units >As well, what is the difference between a "Highrise" unit and a "Tower" >unit? Highrise as in "Highrise 1" is a specialty apparatus that contains removable modules. These modules which are sort of like big trunks with wheels on them, contain additional equipment needed in highrise fires, hoses etc.. It allows them to haul up additional gear a lot easier then piece by piece. As for Mikes question about "Quints", It is actually a combination a five different units, a hose cart, an engine, a tanker, a ladder cart for hand raised ground ladders and an aerial ladder. Looks a lot like an aerial truck without the platform. I believe the old York Fire Dept had an apparatus they referred to as Quint 1 Cheers. Canadian Aeronautical Communications Website www.canairradio.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 20:54:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Dell <gregdell@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Boneheads 'pirates' on FRS what?? Those Hosers who would repeatedly say "she's wide open..." --- David Reeves <david.reeves@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Sound like CB? Could it be the same persons who > used to override the > CB channels, especially Ch. 9, when CB was still > going strong? And > they were using boosters too. > > > --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Bryan > <bryanpass@r...> wrote: > > Anyone else in West-end Toronto hear the idiots > that have been on > FRS ------- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:11:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Dell <gregdell@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Toronto Fire units In Toronto an Aerial is a ladder truck where as a Tower is a ladder truck with a platform on the end. A Pumper is just that. I think when they refer to "squad" they are talking about the firefighters of the whole station house. For example "squad 113", they have a pumper and an aerial, refers to the two units. (Note that this an inference based on what I have listened to) Greg --- Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com> wrote: > What is the difference between a "Squad" unit and a > "Rescue" unit. > > As well, what is the difference between a "Highrise" > unit and a "Tower" > unit? > > Keep in mind I come from Peel Region, where there > the three main > vehicles are Squads, Pumpers and Aerials (grin) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 00:32:50 -0400 From: Lamar Lugli <medarts@magma.ca> Subject: Re: Toronto Fire units Squads in toronto are Heavy Rescue firetrucks. A complete truck stocked with equipment like fans, jaws of life, thermal imaging cameras, stokes baskets...basically everything you need to rescue a person from accidents such as vehicle entrapments, structural collapses, etc... Toronto fire does not have a 'calling convention' to signal ALL the trucks in a particular station, they always use individual identifiers on dispatches, sometimes listing off 3 or 4 trucks from the same station in one dispatch. Lamar On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 12:11 AM, Greg Dell wrote: > In Toronto an Aerial is a ladder truck where as a > Tower is a ladder truck with a platform on the end. > > A Pumper is just that. > > I think when they refer to "squad" they are talking > about the firefighters of the whole station house. > For example "squad 113", they have a pumper and an > aerial, refers to the two units. (Note that this an > inference based on what I have listened to) > > Greg ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 22:14:47 -0400 From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com> Subject: PL Tones Needed I need PL Tones for the following UHF Renfrew Co. EMS Freqs. 415.3375 Renfrew Co. EMS UHF (PL Unkn) 410.3375 Renfrew Co. EMS UHF (PL Unkn) 410.8875 Renfrew Co. EMS UHF (PL Unkn) 419.2000 Renfrew Co. EMS UHF (I Think) I heard someone but couldn't I.D. this 419.4750 Renfrew Co. EMS UHF (PL Unkn) And for 414.250 which is used by all the Fire Depts. as a mobile link repeater throughout the county. This one works ok with DataSkip as well as 415.3375 but I don't have this feature on my BC760XLT And no, 118.8, 162.2, 203.5, and 186.2 don't work. I also would like PL Tones for the various users on C&W 171.255 (Beauman Recycling Used to use this, but I think have moved - I've noticed road crews here though (Don't Know which ones) and 166.200 (Road Crews here also)). And 167.835 (One I know is M&R Feeds - But forget the PL Tone) as 163.755 (One I know is Yemen Electric - But forget the PL Tone) Thanks for your help if you can provide these. Randy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 01:05:07 -0000 From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Traffic Warning Systems Incorrect. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ironside" <ironside30@rogers.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Scanont] Traffic Warning Systems > Yes you can use Amber and White with out any problems as long it is not Red > and White or Just Red Hope that answers your question > > >I know this is a little off topic but I do know that > >this question could be answered fairly quickly in this > >group. > > > >I have a light bar assembly that consist of some amber > >rotators as well as some white rotators. Would it be > >illigal to activate a white rotators? > > > >I read throught the Ontario Highway Act and couldn't > >find anything about white rotators. As a matter of > >fact, I couldn't find anything on amber rotators > >neither. > > > >I know police and ambulance use white. I have seen > >few tow trucks around with white. > > > >Greg > > ---------- > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 04/01/2003 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 01:03:50 -0000 From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Traffic Warning Systems Further to this...you are allowed to have FLASHING RED lights on your vehicle provided they only face BACKWARDS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Dell" <gregdell@yahoo.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: [Scanont] Traffic Warning Systems > I know this is a little off topic but I do know that > this question could be answered fairly quickly in this > group. > > I have a light bar assembly that consist of some amber > rotators as well as some white rotators. Would it be > illigal to activate a white rotators? > > I read throught the Ontario Highway Act and couldn't > find anything about white rotators. As a matter of > fact, I couldn't find anything on amber rotators > neither. > > I know police and ambulance use white. I have seen > few tow trucks around with white. > > Greg > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 01:03:05 -0000 From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Traffic Warning Systems As long as the white light only projects behind the vehicle it is ok (as far as I know) but that being said...couldn't be operated while driving for obvious reasons...and actually you are correct that amber is used by tow trucks (and others as well--parks trucks for example) but is NOT required. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Dell" <gregdell@yahoo.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: [Scanont] Traffic Warning Systems > I know this is a little off topic but I do know that > this question could be answered fairly quickly in this > group. > > I have a light bar assembly that consist of some amber > rotators as well as some white rotators. Would it be > illigal to activate a white rotators? > > I read throught the Ontario Highway Act and couldn't > find anything about white rotators. As a matter of > fact, I couldn't find anything on amber rotators > neither. > > I know police and ambulance use white. I have seen > few tow trucks around with white. > > Greg > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 03:04:41 -0000 From: "jasonwright03" <jasonwright03@hotmail.com> Subject: programming Ontario Fleetnet into PRO-92 scanner I am having trouble programming the ontario fleetnet southwest zone into my pro-92 scanner. I seem to have it working properly, and have the correct information however.... it is not working correctly. The problem is when someone talks, there is a .5sec delay that goes on/off throughout the conversation, causing it to be significantly unreadable, the talkgroups are working right, it is trunking properly, but this delay is causing it to be for the most part unreadeable. If anyone has any suggestions or info for me regarding this, I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 06:09:12 -0400 From: "I Fyt Fyrs" <ifytfyrs@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Toronto Fire units You are close... A Tower (T331) is an articulating boom aparatus with a platform at the end (ie. Bronto). An Aerial (A441) is simply a straight ladder rig (75 - 100 feet). A Platform (PL432) is an aerial with with a platform on the tip. In Etobicoke, PL 432 is classed as a Quint, whereas A441 and PL415 are not. PL432 has a pump and is capable of stand-alone firefighting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Dell" <gregdell@yahoo.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Scanont] Toronto Fire units > In Toronto an Aerial is a ladder truck where as a > Tower is a ladder truck with a platform on the end. > > A Pumper is just that. > > I think when they refer to "squad" they are talking > about the firefighters of the whole station house. > For example "squad 113", they have a pumper and an > aerial, refers to the two units. (Note that this an > inference based on what I have listened to) > > Greg > > --- Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com> wrote: > > What is the difference between a "Squad" unit and a > > "Rescue" unit. > > > > As well, what is the difference between a "Highrise" > > unit and a "Tower" > > unit? > > > > Keep in mind I come from Peel Region, where there > > the three main > > vehicles are Squads, Pumpers and Aerials (grin) > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:39:52 -0400 From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca> Subject: RE: Traffic Warning Systems That's not incorrect. You can have white lights to the front AND back of the vehicle. The only stipulation is that you cannot have alternating headlamps. This has been verified by SEVERAL police officers, both OPP and TPS. M ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 03:55:41 -0400 From: Phil Tucker <phil@substatica.com> Subject: A new monitoring thing.... Netstumbler, MACstubler, Kismet, KisMAC and Airsnort for Linux put wireless 802.11b cards into promiscuous mode. 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Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 07:21:36 -0400 From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com> Subject: Admin: Traffic Warning Systems OK guys, enough with the flashing lights. It's off topic for this group so no more posts. -- Steve <s.jones@rogers.com> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:36:12 -0400 From: "Greg Kulin" <gkulin@everreddy.com> Subject: RE: Admin: Traffic Warning Systems Hey Steve, Maybe one of the members of the OPP or another police agency can check with HTA gurus and then can email scanont-owner@yahoogroups.com and give us a final determination on this matter. Grge -----Original Message----- From: Steve Jones [mailto:s.jones@rogers.com] Sent: Tue 08 Apr 03 07:22 To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Scanont] Admin: Traffic Warning Systems OK guys, enough with the flashing lights. It's off topic for this group so no more posts. -- Steve <s.jones@rogers.com> Looking for trunked radio information? Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 09:07:11 -0700 From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com> Subject: 3 Transports rolled over- Brantford, Ontario 3 Tractor Trailors rolled over including a Tanker, 1 on fire on hwy 24 south of Cambridge. Sounds like a war zone out there, off to work so enjoy! http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/listen.pls or http://www.live365.com/stations/117125 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:28:55 -0400 From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com> Subject: Re: programming Ontario Fleetnet into PRO-92 scanner I'm not familiar with the 92 but could it be a priority channel that it's checking? You might have better luck at one of these groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro-alphanumerics or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro92/ the latter has a lot of members. J. "Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970 ----- Original Message ----- From: jasonwright03 To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 23:04 PM Subject: [Scanont] programming Ontario Fleetnet into PRO-92 scanner I am having trouble programming the ontario fleetnet southwest zone into my pro-92 scanner. I seem to have it working properly, and have the correct information however.... it is not working correctly. The problem is when someone talks, there is a .5sec delay that goes on/off throughout the conversation, causing it to be significantly unreadable, the talkgroups are working right, it is trunking properly, but this delay is causing it to be for the most part unreadeable. If anyone has any suggestions or info for me regarding this, I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 24 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:27:22 -0000 From: "len_dutchman" <len.wiltenburg@sympatico.ca> Subject: Trunk tracking scanner for Ontario Greetings. I've seen from various posts that one would need to purchase more than one scanner in order to scan different trunked systems around the province. I live in Chatham-Kent where the EDACS system is used, but I also want to scan the Ontario Fleetnet for OPP and MOH, especially when the ambulance is migrated to the Fleetnet system. However I'm seeing that one scanner cannot do all that I want. Is this true? Can anybody suggest the best scanner that will do the most for me? I have done some reading on the PRO-95 and people seem to be happy, but it won't do Fleetnet, correct? Any help for this trunked newby would be helpful. Len. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 25 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 16:08:06 -0000 From: "va3wxm" <va3wxm@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Trunk tracking scanner for Ontario I'm relatively new to trunk-tracking too but I'll try and offer some suggestions for you... Tracking Chatham-Kent PD could be quite futile for you. Their EDACS system is digital (ProVoice technology) and currently there are no scanners capable of "decoding" these signals. You can still track them using any scanner that will follow EDACS systems but you won't hear the specific communications, just digital "noise". Tracking the new Fleetnet system is relatively straightforward. A scanner capable of following Motorola VHF trunking systems is required. I have the Uniden Bearcat 245XLT and it does the job well. The OPP use digital (APCO Project 25) modulation but in this case you can monitor them with commercially available scanners: the Uniden Bearcat 250D or 785D. These scanners will also allow you to monitor MOH and MTO transmission. MTO is a bit of an odd-duck because they have a mixture of digital (enforcement officers) and analog (snow plows) comms. The MOH will be strictly analog. The downside with these scanners is the price: at Radioworld in Toronto the scanners alone are $699 and the digital "card" is $649. In order to monitor the OPP and (some) MTO you'll need both the scanner and the card. In order to monitor MOH and other analog trunked systems the scanners alone will suffice. Also there are some legalities surrounding the possession of digitally-capable scanners, but there is much debate on that at the moment (search the archives for more info). I live in Mississauga and use my 245XLT to monitor the Peel Regional Police and local fire departments (Motorola 800 MHz trunk analog). Since the MOH and the MTO road crews will be analog the 245 will work just fine for monitoring that service. Another analog-only scanner that is excellent is the Bearcat 780XLT. And with many hobbyists moving up to digital units there might a few well-cared-for 780's coming on the used market in the near future. Hope that gives you a starting point. Good luck! --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "len_dutchman" <len.wiltenburg@s...> wrote: > Greetings. I've seen from various posts that one would need to > purchase more than one scanner in order to scan different trunked > systems around the province. I live in Chatham-Kent where the EDACS > system is used, but I also want to scan the Ontario Fleetnet for OPP > and MOH, especially when the ambulance is migrated to the Fleetnet > system. However I'm seeing that one scanner cannot do all that I > want. Is this true? Can anybody suggest the best scanner that will > do the most for me? I have done some reading on the PRO-95 and > people seem to be happy, but it won't do Fleetnet, correct? > > Any help for this trunked newby would be helpful. > > Len. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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