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Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Digest Number 1593
From: "Al _" <shuttrbug77@hotmail.com>
2. Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: "Ian Howes" <ian_howes@hotmail.com>
3. Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
4. RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
5. Re: Digest Number 1593
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
6. RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
7. Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: "Colin and Pat Webster" <colpatw@sympatico.ca>
8. RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
9. RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
10. Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
11. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
12. RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
13. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
14. Re: Niagara Regional Freqs
From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca>
15. File - Monthly Reminder
From: scanont
16. PL Tone for TTC?
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
17. RE: PL Tone for TTC?
From: "John Lennox" <jjlennox@sympatico.ca>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:54:39 -0500
From: "Al _" <shuttrbug77@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1593
Re: Paris Frequencies
Thank You Steve and Eric. Al
From: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Scanont] Digest Number 1593
Date: 31 Mar 2003 18:59:15 -0000
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:47:27 -0500
From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Paris (ont)
on 3/30/03 4:32 PM, Al _ at shuttrbug77@hotmail.com wrote:
> I am heading south to Paris, Ontario in a few months and am wondering if
> there is anything left to listen to that way....town police, fire,
> ambulance, air sort of stuff? Any up-to-date frequencies would be most
> appreciated. I have a RELM HS200 and use a RS Mag-mount antenna on my
> vehicle when mobile. Thanks, Al
Paris Fire is on 153.995.
Paris is policed by the OPP and use a BEAT repeater on 413.5375Mhz.
Not 100% sure about ambulance but Brantford is dispatched on 155.490Mhz.
Since Paris long ago closed their emergency department, ambulances probably
still travel to Brantford.
IIRC, the Brantford airport was on 123.000 (Unicom).
You can listen to the trains passing through town on 161.415, 161.025,
161.205.
--
Steve <s.jones@rogers.com>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 00:53:52 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Paris (ont)
If you face the east you can probably listen to Hamilton Ambulance on
150.695 and their cardiac as well as Niagara. I once snagged London
east as well as K/W 154.770.
If you have a trunk tracker Hamilton's Public Safety frequs will
probably be attainable. If you facing the west try the various MOH
frequs listed inthe files section here. i dont know of much else,
maybe K/Waterloo region's EDACS system.
Hope this helps
Eric
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:18:50 -0500
From: "Ian Howes" <ian_howes@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
Assuming that London PD are not encrypted would this radio be able to follow their activities?
radio stats:
EDACS = yes
800 MHz = yes
AEGIS = yes
Encryption = no
Let me know what you think,
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Fortner
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:55 AM
Subject: [Scanont] For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
If interested, please take a look at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3016248687&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8
Thanks!
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:24:17 -0500
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
At 03:18 PM 3/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Assuming that London PD are not encrypted would this radio be able to
>follow their activities?
>
>radio stats:
>EDACS = yes
>800 MHz = yes
>AEGIS = yes
>Encryption = no
>
>Let me know what you think,
That's exactly why I bought it. But it doesn't work..... So, either (a)
they are encrypted, or (b) they are now using ProVoice. Apparently
ETrunker doesn't properly show encrypted calls, so I'm a little fuzzy on
what the situation is. I'm trying to find out what radios LPD are using...
Also, I've used the radio to monitor the Chatham/Kent EDACS system (PD is
ProVoice). It does the same thing there... Analog talkgroups work like a
charm, but nothing on the digital ones... Which really has me wondering if
LPD is now ProVoice.
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:26:29 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
Can you make a recording of what the London PD sounds like?
I'm heading down there next weekend, I'll see if I can get a model
number or something from one of their radios.
M
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:36:04 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1593
--- Your welcome Al.My pleasure
Eric
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:50:05 -0500
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
At 03:26 PM 3/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Can you make a recording of what the London PD sounds like?
Ummm... sure, should be able to do that. I'll hook my scanner to my sound
card sometime this week and record a little bit.
>I'm heading down there next weekend, I'll see if I can get a model
>number or something from one of their radios.
That would great. I've been trying to see what they have on their hip
whenever I come across an officer... but naturally now I never seem to be
around any! I've been working in Chatham quite a bit lately, and saw the
FD there are using MRK II Scan's... I'm assuming the PD are using LPE200's
if they are ProVoice.
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:04:29 -0500
From: "Colin and Pat Webster" <colpatw@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
London Police have been encrypted for quite a few years, using Erickson equipment.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Iszak
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
Can you make a recording of what the London PD sounds like?
I'm heading down there next weekend, I'll see if I can get a model
number or something from one of their radios.
M
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:20:55 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
Be careful here though.
I was told by a comm. Center sergeant that they are using "GE AEGIS
encryption". AEGIS by itself isn't encryption, it's a flavour of
digital. Just the same as VSELP or IMBE isn't encrypted, just a form of
digital modulation.
Often, the police themselves aren't the best to get information from.
Recently, 52 division officers were hunting for a suspect around Jarvis
and Carleton. I was around the corner from there having coffee with
some friends, one of which is an officer with Queens Park Security. I
had my radio on me, so I put it on to see what was going on. Well, he
said something to the effect of "Well, they must be using their mitres
on this call, because you can't listen to their mobiles - they went to a
new system that changes frequency every 20 seconds" Obviously, anybody
that knows anything about trunking knows that's not the case. I think
it's more a matter that he was informed incorrectly about the system -
as I suspect most officers are.
Point being.asking an officer what kind of system they are on usually
never works. One officer in Niagara told me they are on a Motorola
"astrology" system. I kinda got a laugh out of that one.
M
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:36:25 -0500
From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
Subject: RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
At 08:20 PM 3/31/03 -0500, Mike Iszak wrote:
> One officer in Niagara told me they are on a Motorola
>"astrology" system.
Those systems have a five star rating...
...Andy
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:40:15 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
He must have been a Leo then ;)
I've had my share of sociology and psychology courses and have seen those star signs in action as much or more as anyone. One observation that is easily made is that they will often use a pun or other irrelevant comment and then inspect your reaction to their statement.
It's kind of a half assed method if you ask me however they do use it so it must work for them.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Iszak
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 20:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
....One officer in Niagara told me they are on a Motorola
"astrology" system. I kinda got a laugh out of that one.
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:43:32 -0500
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
Roy 'was' correct about the Prov. Common channel, however starting
tomorrow, you might want to listen to the old VHF DAS frequencies
(NE/SE/NW/SW), and forget about Prov. Com.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Wick [mailto:rwick@interlog.com]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:00 AM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
Toronto...
Mike has summarized it really well which really translates
to fewer units to call, no non priority transfers,
plus significantly less interest in going into
any hospital unless absolutely necessary.
There is also a lot less traffic out there to get
into trouble on the road as people are staying
home in increasing numbers.
Also add to the list of frequencies to keep an eye on
besides St John ambulance frequency is the old provincial
common ambulance which is what most of St John mobiles
radio units also have loaded..
At 12:14 PM 03/30/2003 -0500, Mike Iszak wrote:
>Consider this as well.
>
>People call 911 for anything. I've heard people call an ambulance for
>things like a cough, headache, earache, etc. Basically using the
>ambulance as a glorified taxi to the emergency room. That's not to say
>that everyone abuses it, but there is quite abit of abuse. Now with
>everyone freaking out about getting SARS, people aren't going to call
>that ambulance for something unless something's REALLY wrong. If I'm
>worried about catching SARS, I'm not going to call the ambulance for
>something trivial, because I wouldn't want to put myself in the
>high-risk category by going into an ambulance and hospital.
>
>I'm not sure just how much of that is the reason why calls are reduced,
>but I'm sure that a few calls are because of that.
>
>Also, try listening to the St. John's Ambulance frequency, as well as
>the old Metro EMS VHF system. St. John's Ambulance is the backup for
>Metro EMS, and in an emergency are able to respond to emergency 911
>calls. They are dispatched on one of the old VHF channels (can't
>remember which channel, but it's one of them).
>
>
>As a side note, Niagara EMS have been *REALLY* quiet today (Sunday). I
>think I've heard maybe 3 calls in the last hour. Probably not related,
>but anyway.
>
>
>
>M
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:58:08 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
8 out of 10 Virgos agree..
Lol
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:34:09 -0500
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
why would one not want to listen to prov common?
----- Original Message -----
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
> Roy 'was' correct about the Prov. Common channel, however starting
> tomorrow, you might want to listen to the old VHF DAS frequencies
> (NE/SE/NW/SW), and forget about Prov. Com.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Wick [mailto:rwick@interlog.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:00 AM
> To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
> Toronto...
>
> Mike has summarized it really well which really translates
> to fewer units to call, no non priority transfers,
> plus significantly less interest in going into
> any hospital unless absolutely necessary.
> There is also a lot less traffic out there to get
> into trouble on the road as people are staying
> home in increasing numbers.
>
> Also add to the list of frequencies to keep an eye on
> besides St John ambulance frequency is the old provincial
> common ambulance which is what most of St John mobiles
> radio units also have loaded..
>
>
> At 12:14 PM 03/30/2003 -0500, Mike Iszak wrote:
> >Consider this as well.
> >
> >People call 911 for anything. I've heard people call an ambulance for
> >things like a cough, headache, earache, etc. Basically using the
> >ambulance as a glorified taxi to the emergency room. That's not to say
> >that everyone abuses it, but there is quite abit of abuse. Now with
> >everyone freaking out about getting SARS, people aren't going to call
> >that ambulance for something unless something's REALLY wrong. If I'm
> >worried about catching SARS, I'm not going to call the ambulance for
> >something trivial, because I wouldn't want to put myself in the
> >high-risk category by going into an ambulance and hospital.
> >
> >I'm not sure just how much of that is the reason why calls are reduced,
> >but I'm sure that a few calls are because of that.
> >
> >Also, try listening to the St. John's Ambulance frequency, as well as
> >the old Metro EMS VHF system. St. John's Ambulance is the backup for
> >Metro EMS, and in an emergency are able to respond to emergency 911
> >calls. They are dispatched on one of the old VHF channels (can't
> >remember which channel, but it's one of them).
> >
> >
> >As a side note, Niagara EMS have been *REALLY* quiet today (Sunday). I
> >think I've heard maybe 3 calls in the last hour. Probably not related,
> >but anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >M
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:05:24 -0500
From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Niagara Regional Freqs
These are all digital!
> Greg Kulin wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if someone turn in the Niagara Region can see if the
> > following is correct.
> >
> > Name Freq. Site
> >
> > CH1 OPS1 142.410 Brock
> > CH2 OPS2 141.915 Virgil
> > CH3 OPS2 142.545 Fallsview
> > CH4 OPS2 141.735 Ft. Erie
> > CH5 OPS3 142.230 Welland
> > CH6 OPS3 142.020 Smithville
> > CH7 OPS3 143.430 Beamsville
> > CH8 TAC1 142.005 Brock
> > CH9 TAC2 142.080 Virgil
> > CH10 TAC3 141.945 Fallsview
> > CH11 TAC4 142.005 Ft. Erie
> > CH12 TAC7 142.275 Beamsville
> > CH13 TAC6 142.275 Smithville
> > CH14 TAC5 142.080 Welland
> > Simplex 141.585
> >
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Message: 15
Date: 1 Apr 2003 10:43:33 -0000
From: scanont
Subject: File - Monthly Reminder
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:10:18 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: PL Tone for TTC?
Anyone know the PL tone for TTC Transit Control?
Thanks!
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:23:14 -0500
From: "John Lennox" <jjlennox@sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: PL Tone for TTC?
Try 136.5
John
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Sent: April 1, 2003 3:10 PM
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Subject: [Scanont] PL Tone for TTC?
Anyone know the PL tone for TTC Transit Control?
Thanks!
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