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1. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
2. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
3. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: David Bate <davebate@scannerdesk.com>
4. Paris (ont)
From: "Al _" <shuttrbug77@hotmail.com>
5. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
6. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
7. Re: Paris (ont)
From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
8. Re: Paris (ont)
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
9. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
10. For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable...
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
11. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: Roy Wick <rwick@interlog.com>
12. Niagara Regional Freqs
From: "Greg Kulin" <gkulin@everreddy.com>
13. Re: Niagara Regional Freqs
From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca>
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:47:08 -0000
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
I am REALLY trying to follow the logic here..
You said
"Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there..."
So people decide to not get sick/injured figuring that ambulance staff has
been reduced ???
What might make more sense as a causal factor in the decline in ems calls is
that people who might have gone to the hospital before, for, in all
likelyhood, a minor injury are now scared to go to the hospital figuring
(perhaps rightly so) they might end up coming out with a bigger problem than
they went in there with ..(i.e. SARS)
Just my two cents
----- Original Message -----
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
> Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radio [mailto:radio@slakeyourthirst.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:38 PM
> To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
> Toronto...
>
> Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service?
>
> J.
>
> (with my tree and kitty still rockin' in the free world)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan
> To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 22:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
> Toronto...
>
> According to news reports, a lot of police and paramedics are home in
> quarantine due to possible exposure (working in Scarborough Grace
> hospital in the past few days). Theres probably less medics on the
> road
> as a result.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:49:54 -0500
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
My point was that if there are a decreased number of ambulance units on
the road - which there clearly are - there will be less calls
dispatched, as those cars will be tied up. So... you're not going to
hear transfers or other scheduled calls. All you'll hear being
dispatched is "emerg" calls.
-----Original Message-----
From: parkingcontrol [mailto:parkingcontrol@rogers.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:47 AM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
Toronto...
I am REALLY trying to follow the logic here..
You said
"Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there..."
So people decide to not get sick/injured figuring that ambulance staff
has
been reduced ???
What might make more sense as a causal factor in the decline in ems
calls is
that people who might have gone to the hospital before, for, in all
likelyhood, a minor injury are now scared to go to the hospital figuring
(perhaps rightly so) they might end up coming out with a bigger problem
than
they went in there with ..(i.e. SARS)
Just my two cents
----- Original Message -----
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
Toronto...
> Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radio [mailto:radio@slakeyourthirst.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:38 PM
> To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
> Toronto...
>
> Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service?
>
> J.
>
> (with my tree and kitty still rockin' in the free world)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan
> To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 22:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
> Toronto...
>
> According to news reports, a lot of police and paramedics are home
in
> quarantine due to possible exposure (working in Scarborough Grace
> hospital in the past few days). Theres probably less medics on the
> road
> as a result.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:23:26 -0500
From: David Bate <davebate@scannerdesk.com>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
On stardate 3/30/2003 15:49, SJA505 wrote the following:
> My point was that if there are a decreased number of ambulance units on
> the road - which there clearly are - there will be less calls
> dispatched, as those cars will be tied up. So... you're not going to
> hear transfers or other scheduled calls. All you'll hear being
> dispatched is "emerg" calls.
>
Oshawa just notified that all personnel must wear full garb on all calls now and
they are sending police to all calls with flu symptoms.
-- David Bate davebate@scannerdesk.com - www.ScannerDesk.com PGP KeyID (4096/1024): 0x9CAAA3AC E-mail scanned by Norton Antivirus 2003 Professional Mozilla Gecko Windows NT 5.1(XP) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:32:22 -0500 From: "Al _" <shuttrbug77@hotmail.com> Subject: Paris (ont) Hello: I am heading south to Paris, Ontario in a few months and am wondering if there is anything left to listen to that way....town police, fire, ambulance, air sort of stuff? Any up-to-date frequencies would be most appreciated. I have a RELM HS200 and use a RS Mag-mount antenna on my vehicle when mobile. Thanks, Al _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:45:26 -0000 From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com> Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto... So, if shall we say 50% of the police cars were off the road for one reason or another, by your reasoning crimes would drop proportionately ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto... > My point was that if there are a decreased number of ambulance units on > the road - which there clearly are - there will be less calls > dispatched, as those cars will be tied up. So... you're not going to > hear transfers or other scheduled calls. All you'll hear being > dispatched is "emerg" calls. > > -----Original Message----- > From: parkingcontrol [mailto:parkingcontrol@rogers.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:47 AM > To: scanont@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > Toronto... > > I am REALLY trying to follow the logic here.. > > You said > > "Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there..." > > So people decide to not get sick/injured figuring that ambulance staff > has > been reduced ??? > > What might make more sense as a causal factor in the decline in ems > calls is > that people who might have gone to the hospital before, for, in all > likelyhood, a minor injury are now scared to go to the hospital figuring > (perhaps rightly so) they might end up coming out with a bigger problem > than > they went in there with ..(i.e. SARS) > > Just my two cents > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com> > To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:29 PM > Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > Toronto... > > > > Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there... > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: radio [mailto:radio@slakeyourthirst.com] > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:38 PM > > To: scanont@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > > Toronto... > > > > Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service? > > > > J. > > > > (with my tree and kitty still rockin' in the free world) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bryan > > To: scanont@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 22:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > > Toronto... > > > > According to news reports, a lot of police and paramedics are home > in > > quarantine due to possible exposure (working in Scarborough Grace > > hospital in the past few days). Theres probably less medics on the > > road > > as a result. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:27:29 -0500 From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com> Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto... Oh my God, I'm sorry I spoke up. Actually, crimes would probably increase, as was evidenced by the marked increase of break and enters in 42 division over the last few days. I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that the press announced that 70 42-division coppers were off the job. -----Original Message----- From: parkingcontrol [mailto:parkingcontrol@rogers.com] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:45 AM To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto... So, if shall we say 50% of the police cars were off the road for one reason or another, by your reasoning crimes would drop proportionately ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto... > My point was that if there are a decreased number of ambulance units on > the road - which there clearly are - there will be less calls > dispatched, as those cars will be tied up. So... you're not going to > hear transfers or other scheduled calls. All you'll hear being > dispatched is "emerg" calls. > > -----Original Message----- > From: parkingcontrol [mailto:parkingcontrol@rogers.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:47 AM > To: scanont@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > Toronto... > > I am REALLY trying to follow the logic here.. > > You said > > "Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there..." > > So people decide to not get sick/injured figuring that ambulance staff > has > been reduced ??? > > What might make more sense as a causal factor in the decline in ems > calls is > that people who might have gone to the hospital before, for, in all > likelyhood, a minor injury are now scared to go to the hospital figuring > (perhaps rightly so) they might end up coming out with a bigger problem > than > they went in there with ..(i.e. SARS) > > Just my two cents > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com> > To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:29 PM > Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > Toronto... > > > > Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there... > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: radio [mailto:radio@slakeyourthirst.com] > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:38 PM > > To: scanont@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > > Toronto... > > > > Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service? > > > > J. > > > > (with my tree and kitty still rockin' in the free world) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bryan > > To: scanont@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 22:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in > > Toronto... > > > > According to news reports, a lot of police and paramedics are home > in > > quarantine due to possible exposure (working in Scarborough Grace > > hospital in the past few days). Theres probably less medics on the > > road > > as a result. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Looking for trunked radio information? Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:47:27 -0500 From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Paris (ont) on 3/30/03 4:32 PM, Al _ at shuttrbug77@hotmail.com wrote: > I am heading south to Paris, Ontario in a few months and am wondering if > there is anything left to listen to that way....town police, fire, > ambulance, air sort of stuff? Any up-to-date frequencies would be most > appreciated. I have a RELM HS200 and use a RS Mag-mount antenna on my > vehicle when mobile. Thanks, Al Paris Fire is on 153.995. Paris is policed by the OPP and use a BEAT repeater on 413.5375Mhz. Not 100% sure about ambulance but Brantford is dispatched on 155.490Mhz. Since Paris long ago closed their emergency department, ambulances probably still travel to Brantford. IIRC, the Brantford airport was on 123.000 (Unicom). You can listen to the trains passing through town on 161.415, 161.025, 161.205. -- Steve <s.jones@rogers.com> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 00:53:52 -0000 From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca> Subject: Re: Paris (ont) If you face the east you can probably listen to Hamilton Ambulance on 150.695 and their cardiac as well as Niagara. I once snagged London east as well as K/W 154.770. If you have a trunk tracker Hamilton's Public Safety frequs will probably be attainable. If you facing the west try the various MOH frequs listed inthe files section here. i dont know of much else, maybe K/Waterloo region's EDACS system. Hope this helps Eric ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 21:55:00 -0500 From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca> Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto... In other words: Because of the decreased cars available, you'll only hear emerg calls get dispatched. Everything else will be put on the back burner, or not responded to. You won't see TAS responding to any calls for something like a lift-assist, broken leg, etc.. - they would probably send the Fire Department to those calls first before dispatching EMS, rather than sending both of them at the same time. It doesn't mean people won't call for minor things, but they just won't be dispatched. M ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:55:58 -0500 From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com> Subject: For Sale: EDACS MPA Scan Portable... If interested, please take a look at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3016248687&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8 Thanks! Chris Fortner London, Ontario Canada forts@rogers.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:00:25 -0500 From: Roy Wick <rwick@interlog.com> Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto... Mike has summarized it really well which really translates to fewer units to call, no non priority transfers, plus significantly less interest in going into any hospital unless absolutely necessary. There is also a lot less traffic out there to get into trouble on the road as people are staying home in increasing numbers. Also add to the list of frequencies to keep an eye on besides St John ambulance frequency is the old provincial common ambulance which is what most of St John mobiles radio units also have loaded.. At 12:14 PM 03/30/2003 -0500, Mike Iszak wrote: >Consider this as well. > >People call 911 for anything. I've heard people call an ambulance for >things like a cough, headache, earache, etc. Basically using the >ambulance as a glorified taxi to the emergency room. That's not to say >that everyone abuses it, but there is quite abit of abuse. Now with >everyone freaking out about getting SARS, people aren't going to call >that ambulance for something unless something's REALLY wrong. If I'm >worried about catching SARS, I'm not going to call the ambulance for >something trivial, because I wouldn't want to put myself in the >high-risk category by going into an ambulance and hospital. > >I'm not sure just how much of that is the reason why calls are reduced, >but I'm sure that a few calls are because of that. > >Also, try listening to the St. John's Ambulance frequency, as well as >the old Metro EMS VHF system. St. John's Ambulance is the backup for >Metro EMS, and in an emergency are able to respond to emergency 911 >calls. They are dispatched on one of the old VHF channels (can't >remember which channel, but it's one of them). > > >As a side note, Niagara EMS have been *REALLY* quiet today (Sunday). I >think I've heard maybe 3 calls in the last hour. Probably not related, >but anyway. > > > >M > > > > >Looking for trunked radio information? >Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:01:59 -0500 From: "Greg Kulin" <gkulin@everreddy.com> Subject: Niagara Regional Freqs I was wondering if someone turn in the Niagara Region can see if the following is correct. Name Freq. Site CH1 OPS1 142.410 Brock CH2 OPS2 141.915 Virgil CH3 OPS2 142.545 Fallsview CH4 OPS2 141.735 Ft. Erie CH5 OPS3 142.230 Welland CH6 OPS3 142.020 Smithville CH7 OPS3 143.430 Beamsville CH8 TAC1 142.005 Brock CH9 TAC2 142.080 Virgil CH10 TAC3 141.945 Fallsview CH11 TAC4 142.005 Ft. Erie CH12 TAC7 142.275 Beamsville CH13 TAC6 142.275 Smithville CH14 TAC5 142.080 Welland Simplex 141.585 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:22:36 -0500 From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Niagara Regional Freqs I see that you have CH5 as 142.230 so I assume you say that is a welland police freq, yes it was and still is but is now digital so you ain't gonna here nada but noise. Greg Kulin wrote: > I was wondering if someone turn in the Niagara Region can see if the > following is correct. > > Name Freq. Site > > CH1 OPS1 142.410 Brock > CH2 OPS2 141.915 Virgil > CH3 OPS2 142.545 Fallsview > CH4 OPS2 141.735 Ft. Erie > CH5 OPS3 142.230 Welland > CH6 OPS3 142.020 Smithville > CH7 OPS3 143.430 Beamsville > CH8 TAC1 142.005 Brock > CH9 TAC2 142.080 Virgil > CH10 TAC3 141.945 Fallsview > CH11 TAC4 142.005 Ft. Erie > CH12 TAC7 142.275 Beamsville > CH13 TAC6 142.275 Smithville > CH14 TAC5 142.080 Welland > Simplex 141.585 > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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