From: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Mar 30 2003 - 14:46:14 EST
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There are 14 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Reply to Michael Fenech (was Scarb. Fire Freqs)
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
2. Re: Gov't Radio System Progress Report. (Analog Comm's)
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
3. Re: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
4. Re: Reply to Michael Fenech (was Scarb. Fire Freqs)
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
5. SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: rsh@idirect.com
6. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
7. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
8. Re: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
From: "Rick Harrison" <radio62@idirect.com>
9. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
10. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
11. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "R.S. (Bob) Heuman" <rsh@idirect.com>
12. Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
13. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
14. RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:53:44 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Reply to Michael Fenech (was Scarb. Fire Freqs)
> Interesting! Since I don't have a trunked tracker, it's a bit hard
> to figure out precisely what I'm looking at, here. However, I did
> have the Site 003 freqs -- I was using those to listen to the local
> police.
You will find Scarborough fire is on the same system as Scarborough
police. You'll here them intermixed.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:16:40 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Gov't Radio System Progress Report. (Analog Comm's)
Guys: I am on the 17th floor of an apartment overlooking Hamilton
Harbour. I can hear:
York, Hamilton, Cambridge, Halton, Miss, Niagara, Georgian and
occasionally K/W.
When I am on the mountain I can hear Simcoe/Brant, and London east as
well as a clear shot at K/W. I was able to listen to Hamilton's
150.695 clearly in Port Dover.
I can also hear all of Toronto's Police Zones their EMS, vhf work
crews as well as Miss, and Halton.
When I was living in Toronto I figured I had about 60 KM range living
downtown using rubber ducks on portables facing north on the seconf
floor.
Up here I get probably a consistent 75 KM range. I don't know of any
difference.
Funny note: pagers or whatever interfere with the control channels of
Hamilton's Public Safety Montrola trunked system and I often cannot
lock in and trunk.
Hope this is helpful.
Eric
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 15:25:22 -0000
From: "parkingcontrol" <parkingcontrol@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
HOTSHOT is a term used when a call has been received by dispatch from the
911 operator.
This tells units that this call is a "911' call and as such, a priority..
Btw....as an aside....there was a post awhile back (from who I dont
remember--sorry) that related to a SOFTWARE based apco25 decoding
solution...
Anyone have any more info on this presumably private 'project'????
Any info would be MOST APPRECIATED !!!!
Also anyone have any info on what exactly would be required
equipment/software wise in order to watch the highway traffic cameras on a
laptop in a mobile environment ???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: [Scanont] Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
> --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Lamar Lugli <medarts@m...> wrote:
> > The old scarborough fire channels have been decommissioned and
> > reassigned. 'Scarborough' Fire is now on the Toronto Smartzone
> system
> > (3c08) on the East zone. Do an archive search on this group for
> > "toronto fire", mainly posts a year or so and older. There is
> plenty
> > of information on this system including frequencies, talkgroups,
> radio
> > procedures, etc... You need a scanner capable of Motorola Type 2
> > Trunking to listen in.
> >
> > Lamar
>
> Thanks, I'll look back and see if I can find the posts.
>
> Actually, even though my little ICom IC-R2 scanner doesn't have
> trunking capability, it's not hard for me to listen to the
> Scarborough police (41 and 42 division). I mostly listen at around
> 3:00 AM and there are usually only one or two conversations going on
> at once, so I don't miss much.
>
> In any case, I've gotten used to playing "Fill in the blanks" to
> figure out what I DID miss!
>
> The only thing I can't figure out at the moment is what the police
> term "Hotshot" means. I think it means "very important matter", but
> I'm not sure yet. Any linguists out there?
>
>
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 01:33:51 -0000
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Reply to Michael Fenech (was Scarb. Fire Freqs)
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Bryan <bryanpass@r...> wrote:
> You will find Scarborough fire is on the
> same system as Scarborough police. You'll
> here them intermixed.
That's the impression I got from the trunk site that I was referred
to. It's nice to hear that my conclusion was correct.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:21:36 -0500
From: rsh@idirect.com
Subject: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
Listening to EMS and between the hospitals that are closed because of SARS
and the staff that are out because of SARS, it seems that the volume of
radio traffic is down quite a bit.
Has anyone else noted this, or am I imagining it?
Bob
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 22:21:15 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
> Listening to EMS and between the hospitals that are closed because of
> SARS
> and the staff that are out because of SARS, it seems that the volume of
> radio traffic is down quite a bit.
>
> Has anyone else noted this, or am I imagining it?
According to news reports, a lot of police and paramedics are home in
quarantine due to possible exposure (working in Scarborough Grace
hospital in the past few days). Theres probably less medics on the road
as a result.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 23:38:02 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service?
J.
(with my tree and kitty still rockin' in the free world)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 22:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
According to news reports, a lot of police and paramedics are home in
quarantine due to possible exposure (working in Scarborough Grace
hospital in the past few days). Theres probably less medics on the road
as a result.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 00:04:21 -0500
From: "Rick Harrison" <radio62@idirect.com>
Subject: Re: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
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> At 12:18 PM 3/29/03 -0500, Greg Kulin wrote:
>Hotshot is a carry over from the old radio system, and I mean the radio
>system before the GE system which came on line in the early 70's. This was
>back when there where a north and south desk. When an urgent call came into
>the radio room, a bell would ring, the dispatcher would know there was a
hot
>shot, and clear the frequency for it. The best guy to ask would be Howie,
>since he started at the MTP in 66 or 67.
As it was explained to me, way back when, the original term "hotshot"
related to the calltaker's ability to dispatch details of an incoming urgent
call over the air as he or she was receiving it on the telephone. It was
one-sided, the road units could only hear the calltaker repeating the info
as it was being written onto the occurrence card. However, it allowed units
in the immediate vicinity to start heading to the call location without the
info having to make it's way to the dispatcher first.
Of course, the dispatcher handled the rest of the call... as soon as the
occurrence card arrived at their console via the little conveyor belt...
Rick
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:18:27 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
> Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service?
How many of those calls are patient transfers? I believe that they
aren't doing as many of those as they used to... thats how SARS was
able to get from Scarborough Grace to other hospitals.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:29:33 -0500
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there...
-----Original Message-----
From: radio [mailto:radio@slakeyourthirst.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:38 PM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
Toronto...
Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service?
J.
(with my tree and kitty still rockin' in the free world)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 22:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
Toronto...
According to news reports, a lot of police and paramedics are home in
quarantine due to possible exposure (working in Scarborough Grace
hospital in the past few days). Theres probably less medics on the
road
as a result.
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:32:49 -0500
From: "R.S. (Bob) Heuman" <rsh@idirect.com>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
Patient transfers are BANNED right now... No traffic from the Transfers
units at all.
RSH
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:18:27 -0500, you wrote:
>> Umm...how would this decrease the number of calls for service?
>
>How many of those calls are patient transfers? I believe that they
>aren't doing as many of those as they used to... thats how SARS was
>able to get from Scarborough Grace to other hospitals.
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:27:34 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
OK, I can understand a reduction in calls with respect to patient transfers but I can't see there being less car accidents or heart attacks just because there are less ambulances on the road. If that were the case then remove all the cop cars too and we'll be living crime free. Park the fire trucks and we can rename the place Bedrock.
Obviously the units that are still on the road would have to take up the slack. I've been listening today and traffic sounds normal for a Sunday morning, of course there have been no reported cases up this way so far.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
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From: SJA505
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
Simple... They're not going to call an ambulance that's not there...
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:14:34 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
Consider this as well.
People call 911 for anything. I've heard people call an ambulance for
things like a cough, headache, earache, etc. Basically using the
ambulance as a glorified taxi to the emergency room. That's not to say
that everyone abuses it, but there is quite abit of abuse. Now with
everyone freaking out about getting SARS, people aren't going to call
that ambulance for something unless something's REALLY wrong. If I'm
worried about catching SARS, I'm not going to call the ambulance for
something trivial, because I wouldn't want to put myself in the
high-risk category by going into an ambulance and hospital.
I'm not sure just how much of that is the reason why calls are reduced,
but I'm sure that a few calls are because of that.
Also, try listening to the St. John's Ambulance frequency, as well as
the old Metro EMS VHF system. St. John's Ambulance is the backup for
Metro EMS, and in an emergency are able to respond to emergency 911
calls. They are dispatched on one of the old VHF channels (can't
remember which channel, but it's one of them).
As a side note, Niagara EMS have been *REALLY* quiet today (Sunday). I
think I've heard maybe 3 calls in the last hour. Probably not related,
but anyway.
M
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:16:09 -0500
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in Toronto...
You might want to listen to the old "DAS TAC5 & 7" in the next few days
for St. John Ambulance... Hint, Hint.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Iszak [mailto:mike@warpzone.ca]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:15 PM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Scanont] SARS seems to have reduced EMS traffic in
Toronto...
Consider this as well.
People call 911 for anything. I've heard people call an ambulance for
things like a cough, headache, earache, etc. Basically using the
ambulance as a glorified taxi to the emergency room. That's not to say
that everyone abuses it, but there is quite abit of abuse. Now with
everyone freaking out about getting SARS, people aren't going to call
that ambulance for something unless something's REALLY wrong. If I'm
worried about catching SARS, I'm not going to call the ambulance for
something trivial, because I wouldn't want to put myself in the
high-risk category by going into an ambulance and hospital.
I'm not sure just how much of that is the reason why calls are reduced,
but I'm sure that a few calls are because of that.
Also, try listening to the St. John's Ambulance frequency, as well as
the old Metro EMS VHF system. St. John's Ambulance is the backup for
Metro EMS, and in an emergency are able to respond to emergency 911
calls. They are dispatched on one of the old VHF channels (can't
remember which channel, but it's one of them).
As a side note, Niagara EMS have been *REALLY* quiet today (Sunday). I
think I've heard maybe 3 calls in the last hour. Probably not related,
but anyway.
M
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