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Date: Sat Mar 29 2003 - 12:49:12 EST
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There are 24 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: NRPS
From: "terrorby" <va3jac@rac.ca>
2. Re: NRPS
From: "Michael Fenech" <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
3. Re: NRPS
From: "Alex Chadis" <alex@the161.net>
4. Re: NRPS
From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
5. MOH on Provincial System?
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
6. Re: MOH on Provincial System?
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
7. Re: MOH on Provincial System?
From: "sp_9811" <sp_9811@yahoo.com>
8. Re: Re: MOH on Provincial System?
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
9. Re: MOH on Provincial System?
From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
10. Re: Re: MOH on Provincial System?
From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
11. Gov't Radio System Progress Report. (Analog Comm's)
From: "Randy" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
12. New File Added: ScarTAFL.txt
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
13. Scarborough (Toronto) Fire Department Frequencies?
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
14. Re: Scarborough (Toronto) Fire Department Frequencies?
From: Lamar Lugli <medarts@magma.ca>
15. RE: Re: MOH on Provincial System?
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
16. London Ambulance now on Provincial System
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
17. Re: Gov't Radio System Progress Report. (Analog Comm's)
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
18. Re: London Ambulance now on Provincial System
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
19. Re: London Ambulance now on Provincial System
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
20. Re: Scarborough (Toronto) Fire Department Frequencies?
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
21. Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
22. Reply to Michael Fenech (was Scarb. Fire Freqs)
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
23. RE: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
From: "Greg Kulin" <kulin@sympatico.ca>
24. RE: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs)
From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:54:39 -0000
From: "terrorby" <va3jac@rac.ca>
Subject: Re: NRPS
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Iszak" <mike@w...> wrote:
> If this is infact their plans (to not go trunking), why did they
> purchase some trunking equipment from BMR? 1 of the 2 sites that
BMR
> were to use for the Niagara System was apparently purchased by
Niagara.
>
> As well, in their radios, on the old analog system, they used to
have:
> Ch1 - St. Catharines
> Ch2 - Niagara Falls, Niagara On-The-Lake
> Ch3 - Fort Erie
> Ch4 - Grimsby, Lincoln
> Ch5 - Welland, Pelham, Port Colborne, Wainfleet
> Ch6 - Special
> Ch7 - Prov. Comm
> Ch8 - Simplex
> Ch9 - OPP SIM1 (Some radios, not all had this)
> Ch10- OPC (140.0400)
>
> Channel 2 and 3 were simulcast, as were Channel 4 and 5.
>
> Now, on the new system (digital), we have:
>
> Ch1 - St. Catharines Operations (STC-OPS)
> Ch2 - St. Catharines Tactical (STC-TAC)
> Ch3 - Niagara Falls Operations (NIA-OPS)
> Ch4 - Niagara Falls Tactical (NIA-TAC)
> Ch5 - Fort Erie Operations (FTE-OPS)
> Ch6 - Fort Erie Tactical (FTE-TAC)
> Ch7 - Grimsby Operations (GRM-OPS)
> Ch8 - Grimsby Tactical (GRM-TAC)
> Ch9 - Welland Operations (WEL-OPS)
> Ch10- Welland Tactical (WEL-TAC)
> Ch11- Port Colborne/Wainfleet Operations (PTC-OPS)
> Ch12- Port Colborne/Wainfleet Tactical (PTC-TAC)
> Ch13- Special (SPECIAL)
> Ch14- Simplex 1 (SIMPLEX1)
> Ch15- Simplex 2 (SIMPLEX2)
> Ch16- Provincial Common (analog) (P.COM)
>
> The labels in (brackets) are what the radios actually say.
>
> I'm not sure if all the radios are programmed like this, but I've
seen 2
> or 3 that aren't, and a few that are, so maybe they are in the
process
> of reprogramming?
>
>
> For the time being, they still use OPS1, OPS2 and OPS3.
>
> Back in the day, they only had 3 channels:
>
> OPS1 - St. Catharines
> OPS2 - Niagara Falls/Fort Erie
> OPS3 - Grimsby, Port Colborne, Welland
>
> They still only have 3 dispatch positions like this, but it's
broken up
> to different channels (but simulcast).
>
> Today, this still holds true... Niagara Falls Ops and Fort Erie Ops
are
> simulcast, as are Welland, Grimsby and Port Colborne Ops.
>
> I'm not sure about the tactical, as I've never really been able to
play
> with a radio that much.
>
> If they aren't going trunking, they are sure as heck going to need
more
> frequencies from IC.
>
>
> M
Hi, Would you know where I could find the frequencies of the new
system. I live in the Niagara region but can't seem to hear anything.
Thanks.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:21:08 -0500
From: "Michael Fenech" <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: NRPS
It looks like they already do. There are a lot of VHF frequencies buzzing
away with ASTRO that don't appear to be part of the provincial system. The
old Hamilton frequency 143.430 is one that comes to mind. A search of 141
to 144 MHz by someone down in Niagara should find them all.
-- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [Scanont] NRPS > If they aren't going trunking, they are sure as heck going to need more > frequencies from IC. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:35:37 -0000 From: "Alex Chadis" <alex@the161.net> Subject: Re: NRPS 143.43 is located at Beamsville, Ontario, according to the my sources at the FCC. --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Fenech" <mfenech@s...> wrote: > It looks like they already do. There are a lot of VHF frequencies buzzing > away with ASTRO that don't appear to be part of the provincial system. The > old Hamilton frequency 143.430 is one that comes to mind. A search of 141 > to 144 MHz by someone down in Niagara should find them all. > > -- > Michael Fenech > Toronto, Ontario > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@w...> > To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:40 PM > Subject: RE: [Scanont] NRPS > > > > If they aren't going trunking, they are sure as heck going to need more > > frequencies from IC. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:00:32 -0500 From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: NRPS I only have a pro-90 trunk tracker is there a program I can use on my computer to find the info, I'll be happy to do it. Steve Fort Erie > It looks like they already do. There are a lot of VHF frequencies buzzing > away with ASTRO that don't appear to be part of the provincial system. The > old Hamilton frequency 143.430 is one that comes to mind. A search of 141 > to 144 MHz by someone down in Niagara should find them all. > > -- > Michael Fenech > Toronto, Ontario > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:01:40 -0500 From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com> Subject: MOH on Provincial System? I'm seeing lots of activity on tg 35280 today on the London tower.... (which trunkedradio.net shows as London City 1)... They are identifying themselves as 'London Dispatch' as well. Tech's are doing lots of tests, adjusting levels and such... Anyone hearing anything new on the MOH rollout on the provincial system? Chris Fortner London, Ontario Canada forts@rogers.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:15:28 -0500 From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com> Subject: Re: MOH on Provincial System? I heard testing and some pages go out on 410.6375 in Barrie the other day. I don't see that freq listed on trunkedradio. I've never been big on ambulance comms so I'm not sure if that's an old freq or not. I checked the MOH file in the files section and it isn't listed in it either. I guess I don't even know why I have it programmed in. 8>) J. "Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Fortner To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 19:01 PM Subject: [Scanont] MOH on Provincial System? I'm seeing lots of activity on tg 35280 today on the London tower.... (which trunkedradio.net shows as London City 1)... They are identifying themselves as 'London Dispatch' as well. Tech's are doing lots of tests, adjusting levels and such... Anyone hearing anything new on the MOH rollout on the provincial system? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:19:40 -0000 From: "sp_9811" <sp_9811@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: MOH on Provincial System? On trunkedradio.net it shows MOH as being analog, is this true? Most all that I have read,say it will be digital. Thom KCA6YU --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Chris Fortner <forts@r...> wrote: > I'm seeing lots of activity on tg 35280 today on the London tower.... > (which trunkedradio.net shows as London City 1)... They are identifying > themselves as 'London Dispatch' as well. Tech's are doing lots of tests, > adjusting levels and such... Anyone hearing anything new on the MOH rollout > on the provincial system? > > > Chris Fortner > London, Ontario Canada > forts@r... ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:15:21 -0500 From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Re: MOH on Provincial System? At 01:19 AM 3/29/2003 +0000, you wrote: >On trunkedradio.net it shows MOH as being analog, is this true? Most >all that I have read,say it will be digital. Comms will be analog for MOH.... According to the 'gmcp_status_features_design_jun02.pdf' file in the files section: "Although the system is digital capable, EMS communications will operate in analog mode to meet operational requirements in a cost-effective way" I've had this confirmed as well by various EMS contacts that I have.... Chris Fortner London, Ontario Canada forts@rogers.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:15:40 -0500 From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca> Subject: Re: MOH on Provincial System? on 3/28/03 8:15 PM, radio at radio@slakeyourthirst.com wrote: > I heard testing and some pages go out on 410.6375 in Barrie the other day. I > don't see that freq listed on trunkedradio. I've never been big on ambulance > comms so I'm not sure if that's an old freq or not. I checked the MOH file in > the files section and it isn't listed in it either. That frequency is at least 15 years old. It's a uhf link frequency to the 149.440 paging sites. It's not in the MOH file because it's a link frequency. I only included the actual operational channels. -- Steve <sdjones@isys.ca> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:16:45 -0500 From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca> Subject: Re: Re: MOH on Provincial System? on 3/28/03 8:19 PM, sp_9811 at sp_9811@yahoo.com wrote: > On trunkedradio.net it shows MOH as being analog, is this true? Most > all that I have read,say it will be digital. > Thom > KCA6YU Not sure where you got your information from but all I've read (except for a few misinformed individuals) have stated that the moh will be analog. The radios recently installed in the vehicles are analog only. -- Steve <sdjones@isys.ca> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:13:11 -0000 From: "Randy" <Champ@scanneraudio.com> Subject: Gov't Radio System Progress Report. (Analog Comm's) For those on the scanner list that are capable of receiving the new provincial radio frequencies for MOH, OPP, MTO, (and eventually MNR) my question to you is. Have you noticed an increase in distance that you're now able to recieve for you local public safety pretty much meaning EMS Services (MOH)? I am hoping that this new system will allow me to have a greater distance of listener coverage area. On conventional VHF ch's for OPP on there old system I can cover almost atleast 100km radius if not more. almost 2 hrs and more (into central Ont. w/UHF EMS (MOH)) In my area of the province, I'm sure I'll be able to eventually hear more MNR stuff in this area. Haven't heard much from MNR in years, other than their Fire Ch. 19, which is 49.070 which is based out of Pembroke and is pretty much only active around only during the summer. Fire comm's have never been better than now for throughout Renfrew County, I have almost all of the Southern Portion covered with only 149.44 (EMS and Fire Paging Simulcast) 415.8375 (Fire Dispatch PL 186.2 and 410.8375 PL 186.2) 414.25 (Fire Mobile Link Repeater County Wide - PL Still Unkn. but works with DataSkip) Along with Fire Dispatch Simulcast on 154.665 and O/S Ch. of 155.25, but the UHF Ch. is better for the mobiles, atleast in my area that is. Dispatch is also simulcasted on various VHF freqs also for the more localized repeaters. There's a few more that I haven't been able to verify for PL Tones for EMS on UHF which are 410.3375, 415.3375 - but works with DataSkip, 410.8875 - but I think I may have caught EMS on this one with PL 162.2, MTO have always been providing excellent coverage from Foymount on 143.955 along with 143.85 - Haley's Station and 143.97 Pembroke. Just wanted to see what kind of progress this system is having so far, seeing as Zone 1 is almost complete with only the MNR to yet begin to enter the system. Would appreciate any comments on the this. Randy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScanRenfrewCounty http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaScan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiveScannerAudio ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:42:16 -0000 From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com> Subject: New File Added: ScarTAFL.txt I have uploaded the file ScarTAFL.txt to the "Frequency Lists" section of the file library. This is a list of the TAFL frequencies from 000-953 MHz in and near Scarborough, Ontario. Note to the ScanOnt moderator: can I be "validated" so that my posts can go "live" right away? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:47:50 -0000 From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com> Subject: Scarborough (Toronto) Fire Department Frequencies? I found a list of frequencies that are supposed to be for Scarborough Fire, but I get nothing on them except an occasional morse code burst from what I suppose is a repeater. Does anybody know where I can find this info? We get a lot of false alarms in my building and I'd like to listen in when the fire truck pulls up. I'd particularly like to listen to the actual firemen as they investigate the latest short-circuit in the alarm box. I may learn some new words. :) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:16:36 -0500 From: Lamar Lugli <medarts@magma.ca> Subject: Re: Scarborough (Toronto) Fire Department Frequencies? The old scarborough fire channels have been decommissioned and reassigned. 'Scarborough' Fire is now on the Toronto Smartzone system (3c08) on the East zone. Do an archive search on this group for "toronto fire", mainly posts a year or so and older. There is plenty of information on this system including frequencies, talkgroups, radio procedures, etc... You need a scanner capable of Motorola Type 2 Trunking to listen in. Lamar On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 11:47 PM, Archibald Movse wrote: > I found a list of frequencies that are supposed to be for > Scarborough Fire, but I get nothing on them except an occasional > morse code burst from what I suppose is a repeater. > > Does anybody know where I can find this info? We get a lot of false > alarms in my building and I'd like to listen in when the fire truck > pulls up. I'd particularly like to listen to the actual firemen as > they investigate the latest short-circuit in the alarm box. I may > learn some new words. :) > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:50:44 -0500 From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca> Subject: RE: Re: MOH on Provincial System? Ambulances have MCS2000 radios for the new system. MCS2000 radios cannot transmit digital, so they will remain analog. This has been confirmed by another scanont member who is high up with an EMS provider in Ontario. M ----- Mike Iszak, VE3XLS RCC College of Technology 2000 Steeles Avenue West Concord (Toronto), Ontario L4K 4N1 416.721.6698 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:09:52 -0500 From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com> Subject: London Ambulance now on Provincial System Looks like they made the switch sometime thru the night..... 151.820 (London 2) has gone silent, and they are now using talkgroup 35280. Chris Fortner London, Ontario Canada forts@rogers.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:06:14 -0500 From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net> Subject: Re: Gov't Radio System Progress Report. (Analog Comm's) well randy, sinse the MOH hasn't started using the new system...I'm not sure, but if the OPP are any indication, then yes the distance will be increased. -John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy" <Champ@scanneraudio.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:13 PM Subject: [Scanont] Gov't Radio System Progress Report. (Analog Comm's) > For those on the scanner list that are capable of receiving the new > provincial radio frequencies for MOH, OPP, MTO, (and eventually MNR) > my question to you is. > > Have you noticed an increase in distance that you're now able to > recieve for you local public safety pretty much meaning EMS Services > (MOH)? > > I am hoping that this new system will allow me to have a greater > distance of listener coverage area. On conventional VHF ch's for OPP > on there old system I can cover almost atleast 100km radius if not > more. almost 2 hrs and more (into central Ont. w/UHF EMS (MOH)) > > In my area of the province, I'm sure I'll be able to eventually hear > more MNR stuff in this area. Haven't heard much from MNR in years, > other than their Fire Ch. 19, which is 49.070 which is based out of > Pembroke and is pretty much only active around only during the > summer. > > Fire comm's have never been better than now for throughout Renfrew > County, I have almost all of the Southern Portion covered with only > 149.44 (EMS and Fire Paging Simulcast) 415.8375 (Fire Dispatch PL > 186.2 and 410.8375 PL 186.2) 414.25 (Fire Mobile Link Repeater > County Wide - PL Still Unkn. but works with DataSkip) Along with > Fire Dispatch Simulcast on 154.665 and O/S Ch. of 155.25, but the > UHF Ch. is better for the mobiles, atleast in my area that is. > Dispatch is also simulcasted on various VHF freqs also for the more > localized repeaters. There's a few more that I haven't been able to > verify for PL Tones for EMS on UHF which are 410.3375, 415.3375 - > but works with DataSkip, 410.8875 - but I think I may have caught > EMS on this one with PL 162.2, > > MTO have always been providing excellent coverage from Foymount on > 143.955 along with 143.85 - Haley's Station and 143.97 Pembroke. > > Just wanted to see what kind of progress this system is having so > far, seeing as Zone 1 is almost complete with only the MNR to yet > begin to enter the system. > > Would appreciate any comments on the this. > > Randy > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScanRenfrewCounty > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaScan > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiveScannerAudio > > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 18 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:20:48 -0500 From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net> Subject: Re: London Ambulance now on Provincial System What other london channels have switched? The Grey/Bruce desk [155.9700] and the Huron County channel [151.505] are still loud and clear...but there have been techs doing testing lately, so the switch is likely not far off. -John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Fortner" <forts@rogers.com> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: [Scanont] London Ambulance now on Provincial System > Looks like they made the switch sometime thru the night..... 151.820 > (London 2) has gone silent, and they are now using talkgroup 35280. > > > Chris Fortner > London, Ontario Canada > forts@rogers.com > > > > > Looking for trunked radio information? > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 19 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:40:28 -0500 From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com> Subject: Re: London Ambulance now on Provincial System At 11:20 AM 3/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: >What other london channels have switched? The Grey/Bruce desk [155.9700] and >the Huron County channel [151.505] are still loud and clear...but there have >been techs doing testing lately, so the switch is likely not far off. From what I've been hearing this morning.... it looks like only the Thames EMS city units are on the trunked system. Heard some out of town units using the old London 2 (151.820). London 1 (155.250) and London 3 (151.505) are still seeing normal usage. From looking at my trunker logs, there has been activity on a bunch of the London MOH talkgroups the past few days... so I'm sure more changes aren't too far away. Chris Fortner London, Ontario Canada forts@rogers.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 20 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:46:53 -0500 From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Scarborough (Toronto) Fire Department Frequencies? On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 11:47 PM, Archibald Movse wrote: > I'd particularly like to listen to the actual firemen as > they investigate the latest short-circuit in the alarm box. I may > learn some new words. :) First, head over to http://www.trunkedradio.net and select 'Ontario' in the 'TRS Database', then pick 'Toronto Public Safety'. Fire East Command is what you want and they use site 003. This assumes, of course, that you have a trunk tracker or some alternative for following a Motorola trunked radio system. -- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 16:47:08 -0000 From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com> Subject: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs) --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Lamar Lugli <medarts@m...> wrote: > The old scarborough fire channels have been decommissioned and > reassigned. 'Scarborough' Fire is now on the Toronto Smartzone system > (3c08) on the East zone. Do an archive search on this group for > "toronto fire", mainly posts a year or so and older. There is plenty > of information on this system including frequencies, talkgroups, radio > procedures, etc... You need a scanner capable of Motorola Type 2 > Trunking to listen in. > > Lamar Thanks, I'll look back and see if I can find the posts. Actually, even though my little ICom IC-R2 scanner doesn't have trunking capability, it's not hard for me to listen to the Scarborough police (41 and 42 division). I mostly listen at around 3:00 AM and there are usually only one or two conversations going on at once, so I don't miss much. In any case, I've gotten used to playing "Fill in the blanks" to figure out what I DID miss! The only thing I can't figure out at the moment is what the police term "Hotshot" means. I think it means "very important matter", but I'm not sure yet. Any linguists out there? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 22 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 17:11:35 -0000 From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com> Subject: Reply to Michael Fenech (was Scarb. Fire Freqs) > First, head over to http://www.trunkedradio.net and > select 'Ontario' in the 'TRS Database', then pick > 'Toronto Public Safety'. Fire East Command is > what you want and they use site 003. This assumes, > of course, that you have a trunk tracker or some > alternative for following a Motorola trunked > radio system. Interesting! Since I don't have a trunked tracker, it's a bit hard to figure out precisely what I'm looking at, here. However, I did have the Site 003 freqs -- I was using those to listen to the local police. I'll study that page and see if I can figure out what it all means. This is indeed an entertaining hobby! ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 23 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:18:42 -0500 From: "Greg Kulin" <kulin@sympatico.ca> Subject: RE: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs) Hotshot is a carry over from the old radio system, and I mean the radio system before the GE system which came on line in the early 70's. This was back when there where a north and south desk. When an urgent call came into the radio room, a bell would ring, the dispatcher would know there was a hot shot, and clear the frequency for it. The best guy to ask would be Howie, since he started at the MTP in 66 or 67. G -----Original Message----- From: Archibald Movse [mailto:fiddlepuss@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:47 AM To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Scanont] Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs) --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Lamar Lugli <medarts@m...> wrote: > The old scarborough fire channels have been decommissioned and > reassigned. 'Scarborough' Fire is now on the Toronto Smartzone system > (3c08) on the East zone. Do an archive search on this group for > "toronto fire", mainly posts a year or so and older. There is plenty > of information on this system including frequencies, talkgroups, radio > procedures, etc... You need a scanner capable of Motorola Type 2 > Trunking to listen in. > > Lamar Thanks, I'll look back and see if I can find the posts. Actually, even though my little ICom IC-R2 scanner doesn't have trunking capability, it's not hard for me to listen to the Scarborough police (41 and 42 division). I mostly listen at around 3:00 AM and there are usually only one or two conversations going on at once, so I don't miss much. In any case, I've gotten used to playing "Fill in the blanks" to figure out what I DID miss! The only thing I can't figure out at the moment is what the police term "Hotshot" means. I think it means "very important matter", but I'm not sure yet. Any linguists out there? Looking for trunked radio information? Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 24 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:40:16 -0500 From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net> Subject: RE: Reply to Lamar Lugli (was Scarborough Fire Freqs) I think the short answer would be that a hotshot is an urgent 911 call. Kitties in a tree don't count. At 12:18 PM 3/29/03 -0500, Greg Kulin wrote: >Hotshot is a carry over from the old radio system, and I mean the radio >system before the GE system which came on line in the early 70's. This was >back when there where a north and south desk. When an urgent call came into >the radio room, a bell would ring, the dispatcher would know there was a hot >shot, and clear the frequency for it. The best guy to ask would be Howie, >since he started at the MTP in 66 or 67. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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