[Scanont] Digest Number 1586

From: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Mar 24 2003 - 14:43:18 EST


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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
           From: "Harold Farrenkopf" <hfarrenkopf@yahoo.ca>
      2. Re: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
           From: "sjones2" <sjones2@mobile.rogers.com>
      3. RE: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
           From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
      4. Re: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
           From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
      5. Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
           From: "Harold Farrenkopf" <hfarrenkopf@yahoo.ca>
      6. Re: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
      7. 9600 scanner
           From: "foxtail" <foxtail@sympatico.ca>
      8. London Police
           From: "lakenned2002" <lesleyanne.kennedy@sympatico.ca>
      9. London Police
           From: "lakenned2002" <lesleyanne.kennedy@sympatico.ca>
     10. Re: London Police
           From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
     11. Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
           From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
     12. Re: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
           From: Pete Ivakitsch <canairradio@sympatico.ca>
     13. Re: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
           From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
     14. Re: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
           From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
     15. Military Freq.
           From: "J.Wiehe" <j.wiehe@sympatico.ca>
     16. F.S. BC 245XLT Trunk Tracker 11 HandHeld Scanner
           From: "wilf51" <wilf51@yahoo.ca>

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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:57:04 -0000
   From: "Harold Farrenkopf" <hfarrenkopf@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs

Didn't read all the posts in this thread but the last that I know is
they are not going to be trunked. They were going to be like Barrie
PD with conventional Astro APCO 25 repeaters with voted receivers.
Similar to what they had but newer digital radios and
Centracom Gold Elite consoles.

What is wrong with sole sourcing? Since they own all Motorola APCO 25
 portables, the only infrastructure that is 100% compliant is from
Motorola. Motorola is the only supplier of this equipment since the
small dealers are forbidden to compete under Motorola's request for
big systems.

At least they got the system that works as they wanted, better
coverage with nobody controlling it other than themselves and cheaper
in the long run. By the way, how much is the BMR total so far to the
provincial government? Who is paying for all those additional base
stations at those busy sites? Well I guess we will be as
taxpayers.........

HKF

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Message: 2
   Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:57:58 -0400
   From: "sjones2" <sjones2@mobile.rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs

Niagara could go with any of the p25 vendors out there I believe? Kenwood, Transcrypt and Racal all make p25 equipment.

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Message: 3
   Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:06:14 -0500
   From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs

Since Niagara Regional Police's plan is eventually to run encryption,
getting radios, etc.. from another source other than Motorola would
render encryption useless.

M

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Mike Iszak, VE3XLS
RCC College of Technology
2000 Steeles Avenue West
Concord (Toronto), Ontario
L4K 4N1
416.721.6698

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Message: 4
   Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:36:37 -0500
   From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
Subject: Re: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs

on 3/23/03 8:06 PM, Mike Iszak at mike@warpzone.ca wrote:

> Since Niagara Regional Police's plan is eventually to run encryption,
> getting radios, etc.. from another source other than Motorola would
> render encryption useless.

P25 is a standard set of protocols including encryption. NRPS can purchase
radios and encryption from any one of the vendors and they should all
communicate if they order the right pieces.

Not much sense having different forms of encryption between different
vendors since the US government wants interoperability and one of their
biggest must haves is encryption. This way multiple vendors can supply
their needs including encryption.

-- 
Steve <sdjones@isys.ca>
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Message: 5
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 02:17:21 -0000
   From: "Harold Farrenkopf" <hfarrenkopf@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
I was talking about the infrastructure hardware and software which 
would only be suppliable by Motorola! I know other manufacturers like 
EFJ and Transcript make user equipment but only Motorola makes the 
infrastructure components.
HKF
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Message: 6
   Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:30:02 -0500
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
> Since Niagara Regional Police's plan is eventually to run encryption,
> getting radios, etc.. from another source other than Motorola would
> render encryption useless.
Umm. Sorry to butt in here, Mike.. but P25 is an across-the-board 
encryption standard for all digital radios, regardless of make or 
model... that was the purpose of the P25 project, to ensure an industry 
standard rather than proprietary technology.
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Message: 7
   Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 22:38:34 -0800
   From: "foxtail" <foxtail@sympatico.ca>
Subject: 9600 scanner
Does anyone on the list know when this 9600 scanner from RS or Uniden are to
hit the shelfs? Thanks.
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Message: 8
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 03:38:15 -0000
   From: "lakenned2002" <lesleyanne.kennedy@sympatico.ca>
Subject: London Police
Can anyone tell me if I can listen in on the London Police, and what 
equipment/frequencies I will need to do so,  miss the leisure of it, 
any info will be greatly appreciated.
thanks
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Message: 9
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 03:37:16 -0000
   From: "lakenned2002" <lesleyanne.kennedy@sympatico.ca>
Subject: London Police
Can anyone tell me if I can listen in on the London Police, and what 
equipment/frequencies I will need to do so,  miss the leisure of it, 
any info will be greatly appreciated.
thanks
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Message: 10
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:30:30 -0500
   From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: London Police
At 03:38 AM 3/24/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me if I can listen in on the London Police, and what
>equipment/frequencies I will need to do so,  miss the leisure of it,
>any info will be greatly appreciated.
In a nutshell, no.  They are on an EDACS system, but are digital.  Other 
London public works groups on the system are analog... They can be 
monitored just fine (water dept, roads, parks, animal control etc 
etc)..  The police however are using either AEGIS or ProVoice digital, and 
may or may not be encrypted (looks like they are)... The details are 
somewhat sketchy.
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
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Message: 11
   Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:07:32 -0500
   From: Paul  Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
Subject: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
List:
Someone posted the list of letter names, a while ago, now I can't find them, 
could they be reposted?
Thanks
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Message: 12
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:58:29 -0500
   From: Pete Ivakitsch <canairradio@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
>Someone posted the list of letter names, a while ago, now I can't find them,
>could they be reposted?
A - Alpha       N - November
B - Bravo       O - Oscar
C - Charlie     P - Papa
D - Delta       Q - Quebec
E - Echo        R - Romeo
F - Foxtrot     S - Sierra
G - Golf        T - Tango
H - Hotel       U - Uniform
I - India       V - Victor
J - Juliet      W - Whiskey
K - Kilo        X - Xray
L - Lima        Y - Yankee
M - Mike        Z - Zulu
Canadian Aeronautical Communications Website
www.canairradio.com
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Message: 13
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:01:42 -0500
   From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:07  PM, Paul Schmidt wrote:
> Someone posted the list of letter names, a while ago, now I can't find 
> them,
> could they be reposted?
Do a Google search (http://www.google.com) for "NATO phonetic alphabet".
--
Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 14
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:15:38 -0500
   From: Paul  Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie
On March 24, 2003 07:58 am, Pete Ivakitsch wrote:
> >Someone posted the list of letter names, a while ago, now I can't find
> > them, could they be reposted?
>
> A - Alpha       N - November
> B - Bravo       O - Oscar
> C - Charlie     P - Papa
> D - Delta       Q - Quebec
> E - Echo        R - Romeo
> F - Foxtrot     S - Sierra
> G - Golf        T - Tango
> H - Hotel       U - Uniform
> I - India       V - Victor
> J - Juliet      W - Whiskey
> K - Kilo        X - Xray
> L - Lima        Y - Yankee
> M - Mike        Z - Zulu
>
Thanks....
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Message: 15
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:10:58 -0500
   From: "J.Wiehe" <j.wiehe@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Military Freq.
Good morning all,
                         Here is a site for those listeners
with HF or short wave radios:
http://www.milaircomms.com/
Jim Wiehe  VA3JHW
j.wiehe@sympatico.ca
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Message: 16
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:40:59 -0000
   From: "wilf51" <wilf51@yahoo.ca>
Subject: F.S. BC 245XLT Trunk Tracker 11 HandHeld Scanner
I have a BC 245XLT in mint condition.It comes with a professionaly 
made copy of the operators manual in a Nice binder.It also comes 
with antenna ,and ac/dc adapter.The person I got it off is looking 
for the original box and pc cable etc.If I he gets it for me by the 
time sell it,I will include it.Can send you pictures if you are 
interested.$225.00 Firm Thanks email me at (wilf1@rogers.com )Thanks
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