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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
2. Re: Indoor antennas
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
3. RE: Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
4. Re: Low band skip and military comms re: Gulf War II/ homeland security
From: "glen282001" <unicorn1717@hotmail.com>
5. RE: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
From: "Greg Kulin" <gkulin@everreddy.com>
6. GMRS Site 18 London
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
7. Re: Re: Indoor antennas
From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
8. Re: +FRS1 being used by a construction crew?
From: "Brian O'Brien" <bmo@kelcom.igs.net>
9. Re: Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
10. Re: Re: +FRS1 being used by a construction crew?
From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
11. Re: Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
12. Reply to SJA505
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
13. Re: Reply to SJA505
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
14. Re: Reply to SJA505
From: "Michael Fenech" <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
15. Re: Ontario Police College Freq's?
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
16. Re: Reply to SJA505
From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca>
17. Re: re 14855 FRS add GMRS channels
From: "dave_scan1" <dharris@playground.net>
18. Re: Reply to SJA505
From: Pete Ivakitsch <canairradio@sympatico.ca>
19. RE: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
20. Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
21. Bruce Pen frequs.
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
22. RE: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
23. Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
24. Clarington Fire and Durham Trunk
From: David Bate <davebate@scannerdesk.com>
25. Re: Bruce Pen frequs.
From: "Mike Ciupa" <mciupa@excite.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:26:35 -0000
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
Subject: Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
I just bought an ICom IC-R2 portable scanner today from RadioWorld.
Man, it's small! Last time I had a scanner (about 20 years ago) it
was a whacking big desk model. This thing, on the other hand, could
be misplaced under a magazine.
I suppose I should contribute something to this discussion, though
since I'm pretty new to this hobby (again) and I've only had the
gadget for 10 hours, there's not a lot I can say. However, if
you're near Scarborough and you'd like to listen to our Men in Blue
keeping the streets safe, here are some frequencies...
866.620, 863.540 (not very busy, compared to the other two), 863.240
That's all I've got so far.
I have noticed that my little portable unit can't pick up beans in
the lower ranges. It covers 500 KHz to 1.3 Ghz continuous, but I've
had no luck picking up the BBC World Service on the rubber duck! I
guess I've got to string a big dipole out on my balcony, eh? Or am
I overlooking something? (Yes, I put it in AM mode!)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:06:12 -0500
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: Re: Indoor antennas
Hi Paul,
I would highly suggest the following antenna listed on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=296&item=3013546018
I use this at home for the time being, and it's working quite well. When
I'm upstairs in my room, which is only on the second floor, I can pick up a
police dept. (Pembroke - 142.845) about 45 km's away with no problem. Works
well with other frequencies too.
This may be a good antenna for you to put up in the living room, in your
apt. depending on how high up you are.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Schmidt" <pschmidt@interlog.com>
To: "Scanont" <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: [Scanont] Indoor antennas
> Dear List:
>
> I sent this before, but no answers, and I didn't see it on the list, so
I'll
> try again....
>
> I have two dilemmas, both are antennas, ones a little OT but someone may
have
> ideas.
>
> First, the telescoping antenna on the scanner, it's busted, I need a
decent
> indoor antenna I live in an apartment building, anyone have
recommendations?
>
> Paul
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 06:22:03 -0500
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
Ummm.... a lot has changed in the last 20 years. You might want to
look at the frequency listings either here or at www.dustpile.com and
bring yourself up to date. If you're only interested in listening to
the 'boys in blue', I'm afraid you wasted your money on the Icom radio.
If you're in need of help, just ask. I'm sure I (or others in this
group) can answer most of your questions.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Archibald Movse [mailto:fiddlepuss@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:27 AM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Scanont] Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
I just bought an ICom IC-R2 portable scanner today from RadioWorld.
Man, it's small! Last time I had a scanner (about 20 years ago) it
was a whacking big desk model. This thing, on the other hand, could
be misplaced under a magazine.
I suppose I should contribute something to this discussion, though
since I'm pretty new to this hobby (again) and I've only had the
gadget for 10 hours, there's not a lot I can say. However, if
you're near Scarborough and you'd like to listen to our Men in Blue
keeping the streets safe, here are some frequencies...
866.620, 863.540 (not very busy, compared to the other two), 863.240
That's all I've got so far.
I have noticed that my little portable unit can't pick up beans in
the lower ranges. It covers 500 KHz to 1.3 Ghz continuous, but I've
had no luck picking up the BBC World Service on the rubber duck! I
guess I've got to string a big dipole out on my balcony, eh? Or am
I overlooking something? (Yes, I put it in AM mode!)
Looking for trunked radio information?
Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:05:49 -0000
From: "glen282001" <unicorn1717@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Low band skip and military comms re: Gulf War II/ homeland security
I remember back in the late 80's,low band was booming with skip.
I was listening during the invasion of Panama, and there was lots of
skip related to other ops in Central/south America as well.
I have copied range control at Ft Hood in Texas on 30.450 in the last
couple of weeks, that's always been a good freq.
The skip doesn't seem as strong lately, but then again I'm not
usually near a radio during the daytime when it comes in the best.
I have been listening for action on the HF band to the USAF
11175khz, 13927khz etc. It has been quieter the last couple of days.
I have also been scanning local UHF milair channels in hopes of
hearing traffic related to the increased security measures.
The refuelling channels used to be fairly active.
Niagara Falls National Guard air ops can be heard on 261.900, and
340.800.
Has anyone heard a peep out of the CFB Trenton freqs lately?
268.000, 232.1000, and 226.8 used to be full of activity.
Some of the Norad channels were busier as well, like 364.2,
314.2 and 228.7.
Let me know if you hear any ops on those.
I have also heard the Civil Air Patrol on HF as well as 148.125, and
148.150 from across the lake in NY state.
Check the www.N2FG.com or www.milaircomms.com for further.
US Coast Guard Enforcement and Customs/ Border Patrol freqs should be
busy right now.
Regards,
Glen
Oshawa
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:17:28 -0500
From: "Greg Kulin" <gkulin@everreddy.com>
Subject: RE: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
Any idea on a date or timeline? Has the request for tender gone out yet?
Grge
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Iszak [mailto:mike@warpzone.ca]
Sent: Tue 18 Mar 03 15:18
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Scanont] Niagara Regional Police Freqs
Soon to be Trunked and Encrypted mind you.
M
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:42:45 -0500
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
Subject: GMRS Site 18 London
142.365 has been added.....
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:08:20 -0500
From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Indoor antennas
On March 18, 2003 04:28 pm, va3wxm wrote:
> Interior antennas... hmm... at one time Radio Shack sold a mag-mount
> mobile scanner antenna. Perhaps something like that would do the
> trick; stick it on a filing cabinet or some other piece of metal for
> a ground plane and it should work. I had one for my car and the
> performance wasn't too bad. Plus, since you're in an apartment you
> (potentially) have height in your favour.
I think my bro-in-law might have an extra mag-mount, I'll try that and see if
it works. As for height, I'm as high up as I can get, and that is the 4th
floor.
> For powered tv antennas I currently have one installed in my attic
> and it works quite well. It's the "flying saucer" type and receives
> most Buffalo channels from 25 feet up (and within the confines of
> asphalt-shingled wood). I currently have Star Choice but installed
> the antenna to allow taping of shows off-air while still watching the
> dish, and vice-versa.
So they do work, I might give that a try.....
>
> Good luck!
>
> --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@i...> wrote:
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I sent this before, but no answers, and I didn't see it on the
>
> list, so I'll
>
> > try again....
> >
> > I have two dilemmas, both are antennas, ones a little OT but
>
> someone may have
>
> > ideas.
> >
> > First, the telescoping antenna on the scanner, it's busted, I need
>
> a decent
>
> > indoor antenna I live in an apartment building, anyone have
>
> recommendations?
>
> > Second the TV, I decided $49 a month for cable, isn't worth it, not
>
> when you
>
> > get survivor on 5 channels, the bachelor on another 8 channels
>
> something
>
> > about recycled Baywatch bimbos on 7 more, and infomercials on the
>
> rest.
>
> > However for the occassional half hour when there is something
>
> decent on, like
>
> > a Leafs game, it would be nice it if you could actually see the
>
> puck for all
>
> > the snow. Do those powered TV antennas work? Looks like a neat
>
> concept, but
>
> > not sure it would work. Anyone have any recommendations here?
> >
> > Paul
>
>
> Looking for trunked radio information?
> Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:32:56 -0500
From: "Brian O'Brien" <bmo@kelcom.igs.net>
Subject: Re: +FRS1 being used by a construction crew?
An FRS communication system can be expected to pop up just about anywhere in
Canada...!
I was delivering flowers for CNIB last week and observed that just about
every grade school I walked into had FRS radios in the principle's office...
Probably used for recess, maintenance personnel and other events I
expect..!!...??
And just for anyone's peace of mind - NO ONE can claim to own any FRS
channel and NO ONE can be charged under any Canadian (except stalking I
guess??) for interference on these FRS channels albeit common sense and
courtesy is indeed expected but not always received...!
My 2 cents...
Brian
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:58:05 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
> However, if you're near Scarborough and you'd like to listen to our
> Men in Blue
> keeping the streets safe, here are some frequencies...
>
> 866.620, 863.540 (not very busy, compared to the other two), 863.240
Hey there... Great scanner, that R2. I recently gave mine up and I miss
it every day... especially listening to those cell phones (heheheh)
Just so you know, Toronto Poilice runs on a Motorola Type II Smartzone
trunked system, meaning you need a TrunkTracker scanner to be able to
listen to it (the R2 can't track trunked systems). All is not lost,
though. The East zone of the system (which is where 41,42 and 43
division live, as well as Scarboro fire) is rather small and exclusive
to Scarborough. Put these frequencies into your scnaner: 861.9875,
862.4875, 862.9875, 863.2375, 866.6125, 867.1125.
Scan them all.... Trunked radio systems work by assigning channels on
the system (called Talkgroups) different frequencies every time someone
keys up their radio. 42 division dispatch might be on 866.6125 for the
dispatcher calling a car, and when the officer keys up to respond,
it'll be on, say, 861.9875.
All told, you'll be able to hear everything, but not be able to
directly listen to just Scarborough fire or 43 Division. But, like I
said, the good thing is that Esat zone is rather small, and only has
Scarborough.
For more information, check out http://www.trunkedradio.net. You can
search for the Toronto system under either Toronto Public Safety, or
the system ID 3C08.
I hope that helps! Welcome to scanning.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:38:18 -0500
From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Re: +FRS1 being used by a construction crew?
On March 19, 2003 09:32 am, Brian O'Brien wrote:
> An FRS communication system can be expected to pop up just about anywhere
> in Canada...!
> I was delivering flowers for CNIB last week and observed that just about
> every grade school I walked into had FRS radios in the principle's
> office... Probably used for recess, maintenance personnel and other events
> I expect..!!...??
> And just for anyone's peace of mind - NO ONE can claim to own any FRS
> channel and NO ONE can be charged under any Canadian (except stalking I
> guess??) for interference on these FRS channels albeit common sense and
> courtesy is indeed expected but not always received...!
> My 2 cents...
> Brian
>
The problem in FRS is that people aren't using it to it's potential, because
they don't know about the "bulletin board" aspect of it. Channel 1 should be
used to meet, greet and then pick an unused channel to talk on. Since people
typically don't know how to change the channel, you get 25 people all
stepping on each others conversations on channel 1, throw in a construction
crew talking almost continuously, and it seems that the whole process is not
working. It's just like CB's infamous channel 9.
Considering the relatively low power, and the fact there are 14 channels, you
should be able to get a minimum of 26 users within a 2km radius, maybe this
could be a problem in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver, but it shouldn't be a
problem anywhere else. I use FRS, we meet on channel 1, and then usually go
to 6 or 7 to talk, no problems anywhere in the GTA.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:09:02 -0000
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Scarborough Area Scanner Says Hello
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Bryan <bryanpass@r...> wrote:
[snip]
> Just so you know, Toronto Poilice runs on a Motorola Type II
Smartzone
> trunked system, meaning you need a TrunkTracker scanner to be able
to
> listen to it (the R2 can't track trunked systems). All is not
lost,
> though. The East zone of the system (which is where 41,42 and 43
> division live, as well as Scarboro fire) is rather small and
exclusive
> to Scarborough. Put these frequencies into your scnaner: 861.9875,
> 862.4875, 862.9875, 863.2375, 866.6125, 867.1125.
>
> Scan them all.... Trunked radio systems work by assigning channels
on
> the system (called Talkgroups) different frequencies every time
someone
> keys up their radio. 42 division dispatch might be on 866.6125 for
the
> dispatcher calling a car, and when the officer keys up to respond,
> it'll be on, say, 861.9875.
Wow! Thanks for the tips! I'm sure the conversations will make a
LOT more sense to me, now!
Now I have to learn to actually PROGRAM this thing! :)
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:12:05 -0000
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
Subject: Reply to SJA505
> If you're only interested in
> listening to the 'boys in blue',
> I'm afraid you wasted your money
> on the Icom radio.
As I said, I'd also like to pick up the international broadcast such
as BBC World Service. I am still trying to figure out why I can't
pick up diddly on HF, though. I can't even pick up truckers on CB
Channel 19 -- and I'm maybe 3 km from the 401!
It probably doesn't help that I'm inside a rebar-laced concrete
apartment building, but still!
I suppose I could try running a wire out the window.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:58:22 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Reply to SJA505
> As I said, I'd also like to pick up the international broadcast such
> as BBC World Service. I am still trying to figure out why I can't
> pick up diddly on HF, though. I can't even pick up truckers on CB
> Channel 19 -- and I'm maybe 3 km from the 401!
If you go to Rich Well's site, http://www.strongsignals.net, you can
get the lowdown on the R2's poor lowband reception. The reason is the
antenna performs poorly at that range. There are several other options
with antenna, although you can get an adaptor that will allow you to
put a standard BNC-type antenna on your R2.
A scanner is NEVER a waste of money.
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:20:40 -0500
From: "Michael Fenech" <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Reply to SJA505
I owned an R2 and now have the similar R5. The supplied antenna is awful on
HF. A short piece of wire thrown on the floor will work wonders. The radio
is quite sensitive on HF but has very wide selectivity. A station on 6135
KHz will also be clearly audible on 6130 and 6140.
The standard antenna is also a poor performer on the top end of the VHF-Hi
band (162-174 MHz) getting worse as the frequency goes up. A little stubby
antenna I have easily outperforms the standard one in this band even though
the stubby is less than 2" long!
--
Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Archibald Movse" <fiddlepuss@yahoo.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:12 PM
Subject: [Scanont] Reply to SJA505
> I suppose I could try running a wire out the window.
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:11:00 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Ontario Police College Freq's?
I didn't have lot of time to search around but the Aylmer location is listed in TAFL. I'm pretty certain they also train in Orillia across from GHQ at the old Ontario Hospital. Let us know how you make out.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Flores
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:04 AM
Subject: [Scanont] Ontario Police College Freq's?
Does anyone have a list of frequencys used at the OPC?
Thanks
Adrian
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:16:59 -0500
From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Reply to SJA505
Well lets see a 1/4 wave at cb frequency is 9 feet and you have what a 3 or 4 inch antenna
on the scanner?
HF have you tried any of the local am radio stations? Stand by the window for this stuff
and at HF frequencies you are looking at a
LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Antenna
Archibald Movse wrote:
> > If you're only interested in
> > listening to the 'boys in blue',
> > I'm afraid you wasted your money
> > on the Icom radio.
>
> As I said, I'd also like to pick up the international broadcast such
> as BBC World Service. I am still trying to figure out why I can't
> pick up diddly on HF, though. I can't even pick up truckers on CB
> Channel 19 -- and I'm maybe 3 km from the 401!
>
> It probably doesn't help that I'm inside a rebar-laced concrete
> apartment building, but still!
>
> I suppose I could try running a wire out the window.
>
>
> Looking for trunked radio information?
> Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:29:24 -0000
From: "dave_scan1" <dharris@playground.net>
Subject: Re: re 14855 FRS add GMRS channels
> 8 462.5750
> 9 462.6250
> 10 462.6750
> 11 462.5500
> 12 462.6000
> 13 462.6500
> 14 462.7000
> 15 462.7250
> * These frequencies correspond to FRS radio channels 1 through 7.
> The remaining 8 channels are the GMRS only channels
Sort of looks like creeping illegality to me. No such thing as
GMRS in Canada, and some of these are still in commercial use.
This thing can't even legally be operated on FRS due to the
detachable antenna.
Dave
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:40:01 -0500
From: Pete Ivakitsch <canairradio@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Reply to SJA505
>and at HF frequencies you are looking at a
>LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Antenna
Not necessarily. The 80 foot random longwire antenna I use has on occasion
been blown down by wind. In such instances I set something up temporarily
to get me by until I can fix the other one. In the past I've been able to
hear HF aeronautical comms from as far as New Zealand with nothing more
then 6 feet of 18 gauge wire taped to the window. As a further example, I
once clipped (with the aid of an alligator clip) a 4 foot length of wire to
the curtain rod and was able to pick up comms from as far as Australia!
HF *Propagation* has played a bigger role in what I've heard vs what I've
used for an antenna.
Of course you could also try an "Active Antenna". I've had some good
results with them. If interested try the Sony AN-1.
The radio itself plays a big part. Aside from the Kenwood R-5000, I've got
a Yupiteru MVT-7100 scanner which does sideband. I did try the HF bands a
couple of times with the Yupi and was able to monitor some of the Volmets
with a random wire.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:29:26 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
There's no need for a request for tender, they already own all the
equipment.
Their portables are all XTS3000 and the mobiles are all ASTRO Spectras,
and the repeaters are all Quantars.
As for a time line, I'm not really sure. I've heard from various
sources (reliable and unreliable) they can't get encryption in this
year's budget, so it won't be any earlier than 2004, but as for a
certain date, I've not heard anything "official".
Interesting to note, they still have their analog system on the air as a
backup. If you program the frequencies in your radio with a PL (151.4),
you'll SOMETIMES hear officers that forget to switch their radio into
digital - on the XTS radios, the ABC switch is used for this - A-analog,
B-Digital, C-Future Encrypted, and on the Spectra, there are separate
zones, digital and analog.
M
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Mike Iszak, VE3XLS
RCC College of Technology
2000 Steeles Avenue West
Concord (Toronto), Ontario
L4K 4N1
416.721.6698
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:23:21 -0500
From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
on 3/19/03 7:29 PM, Mike Iszak at mike@warpzone.ca wrote:
> There's no need for a request for tender, they already own all the
> equipment.
>
> Their portables are all XTS3000 and the mobiles are all ASTRO Spectras,
> and the repeaters are all Quantars.
Even with xts3k's, spectra's and quantars, you are missing a huge part of
the trunking system and it's not a cheap part. Bet they need to spend
another $1 million to go trunking.
--
Steve <s.jones@rogers.com>
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 01:51:49 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Bruce Pen frequs.
I might be going up to a cottage on the Bruce, Ferndale/Lions Head
area. Would anyone have good frequnecies to scam while up there.
AMB/FDP.
Which OPP towers do I monitor for there and the ride up 9HWY 6 from
Ham).
All help appreciated.
Eric
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:00:13 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
Their radios are already flashed for trunking. Next time I'm down
there, I'll get the flashcode from a portable.
They've had these radios for quite awhile..back from when they were
supposed to be on the bell system.
What they did was buy the equipment for the Bell system outright, then
when that deal fell through, they started upgrading their exsisting
system.
So, radio-wise, everything is ready to go. They just need to get
everyone else on the system first.
M
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Mike Iszak, VE3XLS
RCC College of Technology
2000 Steeles Avenue West
Concord (Toronto), Ontario
L4K 4N1
416.721.6698
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:34:38 -0500
From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Niagara Regional Police Freqs
on 3/19/03 9:00 PM, Mike Iszak at mike@warpzone.ca wrote:
> What they did was buy the equipment for the Bell system outright, then
> when that deal fell through, they started upgrading their exsisting
> system.
>
So instead of Bell reusing the equipment at one of the many other sites they
have or will have they sold it to Niagara? Hmmmm, not likely. I don't
think Bell would sell their equipment at a loss when they've got to buy more
equipment to install all the other sites they need across the province.
Something still isn't right though. According to Niagara, Bell didn't have
sufficient coverage to meet their needs. Therefore, Bell did not have
enough equipment and sites. Niagara would have had to kick in a lot of
money on their own to purchase the Bell equipment and the extra equipment
necessary to meet their needs.
> So, radio-wise, everything is ready to go. They just need to get
> everyone else on the system first.
You're still missing the biggest part of the system. Without this one piece
all that equipment is useless. You gotta have something to run the system
and I'm sure Bell didn't give up their zone controller to Niagara. It's a
pretty expensive piece.
Guess we'll have to wait a few years and see if your sources are right.
Mine say they aren't even close.
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Steve <s.jones@rogers.com>
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:42:27 -0500
From: David Bate <davebate@scannerdesk.com>
Subject: Clarington Fire and Durham Trunk
Hi All,
Tonight I heard Clarington dispatch on 153.125 MHz with a medical assist call and
notified the responding units to use TAC 1. So it sounds like their are on the
move over. As I didn't have the scanner set up right for the trunk I didn't catch
the TAC 1 id to see if it matches the trunkradio website.
I have also noticed a few new 800 MHz towers popup in and around Bowmanville as well.
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 02:51:37 -0000
From: "Mike Ciupa" <mciupa@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Bruce Pen frequs.
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <ejb@c...> wrote:
> I might be going up to a cottage on the Bruce, Ferndale/Lions Head
> area. Would anyone have good frequnecies to scam while up there.
>
> AMB/FDP.
> Eric
Eric try these: AMB 155.970 GREY/BRUCE
FDP 153.260 WIARTON
FDP 154.520 WIARTON
HAM RPTR 146.895 LION'S HEAD(VE3 GBT)
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