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There are 20 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Ministry of finances
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
2. Searching OPP Web Site
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
3. Re: Ministry of finances
From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
4. Re: Ministry of finances
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
5. Re: Ministry of finances
From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
6. Re: Go Transit
From: ironside <ironside30@rogers.com>
7. Re: Ministry of finances
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
8. Re: Re: Go Transit
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
9. Fw: Searching OPP Web Site
From: "J.Wiehe" <j.wiehe@sympatico.ca>
10. Re: Searching OPP Web Site
From: "J.Wiehe" <j.wiehe@sympatico.ca>
11. Re: New file uploaded to scanont
From: Zach Samson <phillyflyers50@comcast.net>
12. Gov't Radio Trunking Question
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
13. Re: Re: Go Transit
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
14. Re: Re: Go Transit
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
15. Re: Gov't Radio Trunking Question
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
16. GO Transit
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
17. Re: Re: Go Transit
From: "pfinlay" <pfinlay@cogeco.ca>
18. Re: Gov't Radio Trunking Question
From: "dave_scan1" <dharris@playground.net>
19. Re: Ministry of finances
From: VA3EAM <va3eam@sympatico.ca>
20. Re: Ministry of finances
From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:58:18 -0500
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: Re: Ministry of finances
Obviously, he must've seen antenna's on the vehicle otherwise he wouldn't have asked the question.
Btw, this question was asked a few months back in the forum. I remember seeing one of these suburban vehicles in my town not far from Ottawa. Someone mentioned that they handle things like gasoline tax and other things.
Again, yes, frequencies for these folks would be appreciated.
Randy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScanRenfrewCounty
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaScan
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiveScannerAudio
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Scanner_News_Stories
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Ministry of finances
> I have been noticing the past couple of days that the Ministry of
> Finances Enforcement car has been sitting across the street for the
> Peace Bridge in Fort Erie with two officers in the car, does any one
> have the frequencies for them. I would like to listen in on them.
Do those guys even have radios? And if so, how often do they use them?
And then, how often is it anything interesting??
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:08:29 -0500
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: Searching OPP Web Site
I did a search for CNI, Criminal Name Index and Criminal Code of Canada, and came up with "0" results.
Any other suggestions?
Randy
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From: Andrew & Charity
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] New file uploaded to scanont
Why wouldn't you just try to go to the O.P.P. website and look around there. I remember a couple of years ago i went searchign and found all sorts of stuff there. just takes soem time, thats all. Hope it helps...
Andrew
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:53:16 -0500
From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Ministry of finances
Hi Randy,
Thanks, Obviously I did see the antenna on the vehicle, And your right the
vehicle I have been seeing is a suburban too. I really don't care how
interesting the conversations will be, this is a big part of scanning to
find frequencies and make lists up. I do now remember some one several
months ago saying the same thing about gasoline tax. I also know that they
sit beside the Peace Bridge and pull over transport trucks from time to time
???
Steve.
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Ministry of finances
> Obviously, he must've seen antenna's on the vehicle otherwise he wouldn't
have asked the question.
>
> Btw, this question was asked a few months back in the forum. I remember
seeing one of these suburban vehicles in my town not far from Ottawa.
Someone mentioned that they handle things like gasoline tax and other
things.
>
> Again, yes, frequencies for these folks would be appreciated.
>
> Randy
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:23:04 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Ministry of finances
What band does the antenna look like its for? The following is from TAFL: 151.055, 151.085, 151.115, 151.73, 151.97.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve St. Denis
To: oufg ; scanont
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 21:21 PM
Subject: [Scanont] Ministry of finances
I have been noticing the past couple of days that the Ministry of Finances Enforcement car has been sitting across the street for the Peace Bridge in Fort Erie with two officers in the car, does any one have the frequencies for them. I would like to listen in on them.
Steve
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:48:18 -0500
From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Ministry of finances
I really did not take a good look at the antenna on the vehicle, there were
two officers in the vehicle and I really just walked buy very quickly
tonight I'll take a walk and see what kind of antenna it is, also what did
you search for on the TAFL list, did you search under Ministry, I just did a
search for the frequencies you sent and there are a lot of hits that come up
but not one that says Ministry of Finances, if worse comes to worse the
weather is going to be in the 50's to 60's starting Saturday so maybe I'll
just take my Opto Scout around the corner and see if I can get the frequency
that way ??
----- Original Message -----
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Ministry of finances
> What band does the antenna look like its for? The following is from TAFL:
151.055, 151.085, 151.115, 151.73, 151.97.
>
> J.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:08:14 -0800
From: ironside <ironside30@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Go Transit
Good Morning wandering if any one can tell me the go transit freqs for the
area in GTA
or where I might start looking for it any help would be great full thank's
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:55:11 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Ministry of finances
I searched for 'finance' without the 's'
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve St. Denis
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Ministry of finances
......also what did
you search for on the TAFL list, did you search under Ministry, I just did a
search for the frequencies you sent and there are a lot of hits that come up
but not one that says Ministry of Finances,...
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:50:56 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Go Transit
Check the archives, they were listed a little while ago.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: ironside
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 14:08 PM
Subject: [Scanont] Re: Go Transit
Good Morning wandering if any one can tell me the go transit freqs for the
area in GTA
or where I might start looking for it any help would be great full thank's
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:16:01 -0500
From: "J.Wiehe" <j.wiehe@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Fw: Searching OPP Web Site
Sorry,
I'm trying this again because Yahoo cut me off
I think.
Jim Wiehe VA3JHW
j.wiehe@sympatico.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.Wiehe" <j.wiehe@sympatico.ca>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:21
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Searching OPP Web Site
> I did a search and came up with 28 results.
> One of them being :
>
> http://www.geocities.com/mr_cni/
>
> FWIW I have a blank OPP daily journal, you know the little note
> books/ pads that the constables carry, and in it is a copy of the
> 10 code and a list of the " Criminal Name Index and Related Codes "
>
> Violence --> 302-345
> Robbery---> 356-360
> Offensive Weapon -->493-499
> Break & Enter--> 371-375
> Theft-Vehicle--> 386-392
> Theft --> 403-426
> Drugs --> 538-561
> Fraud --> 448-452
> Sex --> 346
> Other Criminal Code --> 536
> Other Federal Statutes --> 574
> Failing To Attend --> 512
> Arson --> 510
> Driving --> 700
>
> Criminal Name Index Caution Flags
>
> A --> Armed & Dangerous
> C --> Contagious Disease
> E --> Escape Risk
> F --> Family Violence
> M --> Mental Instability
> S --> Suicidal Tendencies
> V --> Violent
>
> Jim Wiehe VA3JHW
> j.wiehe@sympatico.ca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 08:08
> Subject: [Scanont] Searching OPP Web Site
>
>
> > I did a search for CNI, Criminal Name Index and Criminal Code of Canada,
> and came up with "0" results.
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andrew & Charity
> > To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Scanont] New file uploaded to scanont
> >
> >
> > Why wouldn't you just try to go to the O.P.P. website and look around
> there. I remember a couple of years ago i went searchign and found all
> sorts of stuff there. just takes soem time, thats all. Hope it helps...
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:21:27 -0500
From: "J.Wiehe" <j.wiehe@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Searching OPP Web Site
I did a search and came up with 28 results.
One of them being :
http://www.geocities.com/mr_cni/
FWIW I have a blank OPP daily journal, you know the little note
books/ pads that the constables carry, and in it is a copy of the
10 code and a list of the " Criminal Name Index and Related Codes "
Violence --> 302-345
Robbery---> 356-360
Offensive Weapon -->493-499
Break & Enter--> 371-375
Theft-Vehicle--> 386-392
Theft --> 403-426
Drugs --> 538-561
Fraud --> 448-452
Sex --> 346
Other Criminal Code --> 536
Other Federal Statutes --> 574
Failing To Attend --> 512
Arson --> 510
Driving --> 700
Criminal Name Index Caution Flags
A --> Armed & Dangerous
C --> Contagious Disease
E --> Escape Risk
F --> Family Violence
M --> Mental Instability
S --> Suicidal Tendencies
V --> Violent
Jim Wiehe VA3JHW
j.wiehe@sympatico.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 08:08
Subject: [Scanont] Searching OPP Web Site
> I did a search for CNI, Criminal Name Index and Criminal Code of Canada,
and came up with "0" results.
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Randy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew & Charity
> To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Scanont] New file uploaded to scanont
>
>
> Why wouldn't you just try to go to the O.P.P. website and look around
there. I remember a couple of years ago i went searchign and found all
sorts of stuff there. just takes soem time, thats all. Hope it helps...
>
>
> Andrew
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:50:24 -0500
From: Zach Samson <phillyflyers50@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to scanont
The opp would put up codes and frequencies on their website??? I don't know about the opp, but where i am from in new jersey... cops won't tell you anything about codes or frequencies or talkgroups! :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew & Charity
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] New file uploaded to scanont
Why wouldn't you just try to go to the O.P.P. website and look around there. I remember a couple of years ago i went searchign and found all sorts of stuff there. just takes soem time, thats all. Hope it helps...
Andrew
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From: rsh@idirect.com
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] New file uploaded to scanont
Ron? Where are you?
Anyway, enough with the Ron joke... If the OPP uses these codes, what are
they based on? Generally all of the different code systems in use
originated somewhere, and have been perpetuated by various jurisdictions.
The infamous 10 codes are a well known example of this. So where did this
OPP code system originate, and does anyone else in the world use this same
system? What does the OPP do when a 'new' crime is defined? Do they modify
the code or add to it? If so, is there any 'official' source for the code?
Bob
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 23:34:02 +0000, you wrote:
>> Possibly because without a title in it, or an explanation > of what the numbers are that precede each line of text,
>> most will have no idea what the relationship between the > number and the text is. I assume each 3 digit
>> number is a section of the criminal code of Canada, but
>> that is an assumption only since it is not stated
>> anywhere in the material.
>
>They're event codes for the OPP, Ron.
>
>"Car 34 respond to a possible 302 etc. etc. etc."
>
>I didn't think it was that hard to figure out, especially if one read the thread previous.
>
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:17:26 -0500
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: Gov't Radio Trunking Question
Ok, I have a question about this system.
If I know, (I'll use the Cambellford area as an example) that 141.42 and
142.665 are both control ch's, and (seeing as none listed yet) example,
141.195, and 141.39 are not control ch's but instead voice ch's, am I able
to still properly listen to the system, without putting the ctrl ch's in the
radio, and just listen to any analogue radio action, without knowing who
all the users are?
I know this wouldn't last long, untill all the system is implemented, but
when it does start, I still wanna be able to listen to any of the analogue
users on the system.
Much to the same was as the Ottawa EDACS system, I used to listen to.
I didn't have a trunking scanner, but as long as I had the voice ch's in the
radio, I could still hear all the radio traffic (minus the digital), just
not knowing who it was, unless I listened close enough.
For the most part, the first part of the system will be MTO and MOH, so I'm
not worried about hearing any digital sounds other than just the ctrl ch's.
Which I can always lock out.
And if it means anything, earlier this morning I heard a nice loud ctrl. ch.
on 142.41 here in Renfrew don't know if it's related around here, but I
heard it. (And I know it's not the Hydro-Quebec.
Randy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScanRenfrewCounty
I'm sure once I'm finally able to upgrade and afford a digital scanner, that
technology will be moving upwards to a new direction and on it's way out.
I'm only now getting a radio with PL Tone capabilities. :S I guess I should
atleast save for a radio with VHF Motorola Trunking. Any suggestions on any
that could be relativly cheap, around $200
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:55:59 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Go Transit
> Check the archives, they were listed a little while ago.
I remember, many moons ago, when people actually *helped* each other
out with frequencies and so forth on this list. Now its become nothing
but people telling each other to look it up for themselves.
I already helped Ironside out off of the list, but just in case anyone
else wants some FREQUENCIES, here they are. If they offend anyone, then
you get no apology from me. After all, that is what I assumed the
purpose of this list is. Who cares if its been posted here before???!
Commuter Central Repeater network: 413.9375/418.9375
Willowbrook Yard Simplex: 419.4375
Union Station/TTR Stationmaster: 461.2125
Various, unsorted GO Bus frequencies:
410.3375
410.5125
411.1875
411.5625
410.0625
411.1625
Various, unsorted Union Station frequencies:
452.3625
462.8250
463.8500
463.9625
461.0125
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:20:10 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Go Transit
Umm...hey now, I thought I was being helpful. There is plenty of good and helpful discussion in the archive's with respect to GO Transit. More than just a list of freq's.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 14:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Re: Go Transit
....I remember, many moons ago, when people actually *helped* each other
out with frequencies and so forth on this list. Now its become nothing
but people telling each other to look it up for themselves.....
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:40:42 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Gov't Radio Trunking Question
As long as you know all the freqs for the site you want to monitor you'll be OK. You just won't be able to 'track' the TG's.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Champ
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 14:17 PM
Subject: [Scanont] Gov't Radio Trunking Question
....I still wanna be able to listen to any of the analogue
users on the system.
.....
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:27:20 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: GO Transit
The 410.5125 is the Toronto Hamilton QEW bus run. Helpful for traffic
hints.
Eric
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:37:21 -0400
From: "pfinlay" <pfinlay@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Re: Go Transit
I agree Brian...thanks.
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:26:51 -0000
From: "dave_scan1" <dharris@playground.net>
Subject: Re: Gov't Radio Trunking Question
am
I able
> to still properly listen to the system, without putting the ctrl
ch's in the
> radio, and just listen to any analogue radio action, without
knowing who
> all the users are?
Randy,
The voice channels should be scannable for analog groups. Astro
voice channels have a 1s carrier transmitted once a minute (per
channel), which would lock up the scan so best to turn "delay"
off.
>
> I know this wouldn't last long, untill all the system is
implemented, but
> when it does start, I still wanna be able to listen to any of the
analogue
> users on the system.
>
> Much to the same was as the Ottawa EDACS system, I used to listen
to.
>
> I didn't have a trunking scanner, but as long as I had the voice
ch's in the
> radio, I could still hear all the radio traffic (minus the
digital),
just
> not knowing who it was, unless I listened close enough.
>
> For the most part, the first part of the system will be MTO and
MOH,
so I'm
> not worried about hearing any digital sounds other than just the
ctrl ch's.
> Which I can always lock out.
>
> And if it means anything, earlier this morning I heard a nice loud
ctrl. ch.
> on 142.41 here in Renfrew don't know if it's related around here,
but I
> heard it. (And I know it's not the Hydro-Quebec.
>
Have you tried T4win yet (disc tap required, but no slicer). Or
just try speaker jack audio and fiddle with the volume control to see
if you can get a system ID.
Dave
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:44:46 -0500
From: VA3EAM <va3eam@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Ministry of finances
A little off topic....I was awhile ago told they stop trucks and dip the tanks
to check the fuel to make sure its diesel and not some other fuel
oil...something to do with diesel or the other fuel oil being a different
color....if they run with the other fuel oil then they aren't paying the fuel
taxes....
Eric
"Steve St. Denis" wrote:
> Hi Randy,
> Thanks, Obviously I did see the antenna on the vehicle, And your right the
> vehicle I have been seeing is a suburban too. I really don't care how
> interesting the conversations will be, this is a big part of scanning to
> find frequencies and make lists up. I do now remember some one several
> months ago saying the same thing about gasoline tax. I also know that they
> sit beside the Peace Bridge and pull over transport trucks from time to time
> ???
> Steve.
>
> Subject: Re: [Scanont] Ministry of finances
>
> > Obviously, he must've seen antenna's on the vehicle otherwise he wouldn't
> have asked the question.
> >
> > Btw, this question was asked a few months back in the forum. I remember
> seeing one of these suburban vehicles in my town not far from Ottawa.
> Someone mentioned that they handle things like gasoline tax and other
> things.
> >
> > Again, yes, frequencies for these folks would be appreciated.
> >
> > Randy
>
> Looking for trunked radio information?
> Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:49:44 -0800
From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Ministry of finances
I was the one that got pulled over by them, they dipped the tank to make sure i wasn't using coloured diesel. Never checked my paperwork or anything like that just dipped the tank and thats it.
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From: VA3EAM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Ministry of finances
A little off topic....I was awhile ago told they stop trucks and dip the tanks
to check the fuel to make sure its diesel and not some other fuel
oil...something to do with diesel or the other fuel oil being a different
color....if they run with the other fuel oil then they aren't paying the fuel
taxes....
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