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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Third Times A Charm! LFD TAC 5
From: "sp_9811" <sp_9811@yahoo.com>
2. In regard to Mike and the CACC's
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
3. Re: Re: Third Times A Charm! LFD TAC 5
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
4. Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
5. CACC's
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
6. Re: CACC's
From: jdoch@attglobal.net
7. RE: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
8. Re: Re: Sanyo CLT 6571 cordless
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
9. Re: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
10. RE: CACC's
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
11. Re: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
From: "Kevin Plested" <kevin@warpzone.ca>
12. Re: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
13. Re: CACC's
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
14. Belleville Police Radio system
From: VA3EAM <va3eam@sympatico.ca>
15. STOLEN RADIO EQUIPMENT
From: "Willingham, Shaun" <usenet@plc.mb.ca>
16. CACC Part deux
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
17. Re: CACC Part deux
From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 14:20:08 -0000
From: "sp_9811" <sp_9811@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Third Times A Charm! LFD TAC 5
Just finished listening to LFD's Sunday testing, and there was no
test on Tac 5.
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Chris Fortner <forts@r...> wrote:
> Finally nailed down the new LFD Tac 5 channel... 859.9375, with a
PL of
> 118.8.
>
> 9 Company was booming in on it this morning...
>
>
> Chris Fortner
> London, Ontario Canada
> forts@r...
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 14:28:16 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: In regard to Mike and the CACC's
The coverage areas are too big. Niagara should have its own. Halton
joins with Hamilton and Peel handles just Peel and not southern York
region. Good for the people of Niagara to finally get their own
dispatch centre.
Eric
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 09:32:49 -0500
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Third Times A Charm! LFD TAC 5
At 02:20 PM 3/9/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Just finished listening to LFD's Sunday testing, and there was no
>test on Tac 5.
They do that often.... One Tac will be picked and the bulk of the radio
testing is done on that channel... It usually changes from week to week. I
think it was on Tac 1 last week.
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:14:36 -0000
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
As the current system now sits the only municipal dispatched ambulance
service is Toronto.
If you read all the literature about ambulance dispatch centres in
Ontario you will see that the province wants to keep the dispatch
centres to maintain "seamless coverage" throughout the province. At
present I don't believe the province has any plans in place to let
municipalities control the dispatch system.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 16:34:10 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: CACC's
Dave R.
I understand that but I still feel that the CACC areas are too large.
I.E. Hamilton has the city, Niagara and Brant Haldimand Norfolk.
Surely Niagara and some areas of the latter counties should deserve
their own CACC.
Mississaugas is huge, I think , if I remember correctly you work
there.
London's CACC controls all the area up to Bruce Penn.
It may be seamless but these coverage areas are way 2 big.
My opinion anyway
Eric
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 11:35:58 -0500
From: jdoch@attglobal.net
Subject: Re: CACC's
At 11:34 AM 3/9/03 , you wrote:
It may be seamless but these coverage areas are way 2 big.
)))))))))
need an example... read on
Tapes show near chaos in dispatching ambulance
By Derek Baldwin - Belleville Intelligencer - Wednesday, June 12, 2002 -
7:00:00 AM
Local News - Day two of an inquest yesterday into the tragic death of
16-year-old Dana Whitmore heard chilling radio recordings of bewildered
emergency authorities in utter chaos the night she died.
Two hours of dispatch communications between paramedics, police, and
Kingston ambulance dispatchers were played at the instruction of regional
coroner Benoit Bechard for five jury members who listened as the emergency
response system, on the evening of Feb. 20, 1999, seemed to collapse on air.
Confusion reigned as officials searched for the location of the accident,
police tried to determine who was responsible for responding to the rural
area of north Belleville and dispatchers repeatedly issued a wrong address
on a road that at one point had three different names.
At the scene of the accident, meanwhile, three teen females were critically
injured and waiting for someone to come to their rescue in the -15 cold of
a black night that enveloped their overturned 1998 red Chevy Cavalier in a
frozen farm field.
The victims screamed for help as the smell of gas hung in the air. Two
others injured in the accident, including the driver, had already run to a
nearby home for help.
The jury heard that a quick response by paramedics seemed doomed from the
start, when Kingston dispatchers of Quinte Thousand Islands ambulance
service were told incorrectly in a phone call from a nearby homeowner where
the accident was. It was first said to be on Moira Road., then on Highway
41 and finally on Phillips Side Road.
The nearest ambulance was in Madoc. Its paramedics were later heard
desperately calling in to Kingston dispatch reporting they were lost.
When the Madoc ambulance was dispatched by Kingston at 8:41:01, the raspy
transmission of a paramedic's voice from another ambulance broke in on the
conversation to inform dispatch that he believed he just passed the road of
the accident in question.
Belleville La Salle Ambulance paramedic Shane Meeks turned his ambulance
around and turned on to Phillipston Road. Within one kilometre, Meeks and
paramedic Steve Brohm happened on the scene.
While the two men went immediately to work, the garbled transmissions
between Kingston dispatch continued.
Several more calls were later heard featuring callers to Belleville city
dispatch asking why the police weren't on scene yet.
To add to the emotion in the courtroom, recordings also captured an injured
teen passenger speaking from a nearby home talking with someone. "We could
hear Dana moaning," said Kristen Mitchell.
The voices prompted some members in the courtroom gallery, including one of
the girls in the accident, to tears as the tapes played on.
In testimony before and after the tapes were played, those first on the
scene recounted a grisly discovery of an upturned car with the headlights
still on and the radio still echoing into the night. Among the wreckage,
accident victims were found by flashlight.
Retired Belleville police inspector Garnet Goodwin was first on the scene
after the car's driver and passenger Mitchell stumbled into his Highway 37
home in search of help.
Goodwin testified that he found Whitmore crouched in a fetal position
hanging from a seat-belt wrapped around her hips just outside the open
passenger door. Whitmore was face down, with her arms crossed tightly
across her chest.
A second victim was kneeling on the interior roof of the car also in pain
in the rear of the car, said Goodwin. A third victim was found pinned
between the ground and the car and was only discovered by a "wisp of hair"
extending past the roof of the vehicle.
When Goodwin ran back to his truck to get a seat-belt cutter to loosen
Whitmore from her stranglehold, the La Salle ambulance arrived and Meeks
and Brohm went to work immediately on Whitmore and put her on a fracture
board.
Whitmore was left alone while the rescuers moved the rolled car to its side
to free the girl trapped under the car. Within 30 seconds, her breathing
resumed and another fracture board was produced for the third victim.
Meeks testified Whitmore was "groaning and asking for her mom" and he
worked to clear her airway. About 15 minutes later, "she went into arrest.
We could no longer see any more vital signs on her."
Day three of the inquest resumes at 9:30 a.m. today in a Picton courtroom.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:21:22 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
Ottawa-Carleton's CACC is also privately run..ie, Not Ministry of
Health.
Ottawa and Toronto are the only two in Ontario.
M
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Mike Iszak, VE3XLS
RCC College of Technology
2000 Steeles Avenue West
Concord (Toronto), Ontario
L4K 4N1
416.721.6698
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:40:27 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Sanyo CLT 6571 cordless
Thanks Joe, but I'm not going to make a special trip to pick it up if it's not secure, I'd let him give it to someone else.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: jets_1961
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 22:45 PM
Subject: [Scanont] Re: Sanyo CLT 6571 cordless
>
Four years is not to old for digital. That phone does have call
display on the handset. Scan the 900 Mhz band when you get it. Pick
up the land line if your call is sensitive or private.
Joe
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:47:45 -0500
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
Subject: Re: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
Does Kingston not do there own dispatching? or is it MOH?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
> Ottawa-Carleton's CACC is also privately run..ie, Not Ministry of
> Health.
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> Ottawa and Toronto are the only two in Ontario.
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> M
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> Mike Iszak, VE3XLS
> RCC College of Technology
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> Concord (Toronto), Ontario
> L4K 4N1
> 416.721.6698
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:24:18 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: RE: CACC's
London CACC dispatches all the way up the Bruce Peninsula.
During the average Saturday night, there's 1 call-taker, 1 dispatcher
for the city, one for the east desk, one for the west desk and one for
the north desk.plus a supervisor. This, to me, seems like a bit
under-kill. What if something big happened somewhere and there just
weren't enough bodies to take care of it?
Compare this to Hamilton which has 2 call-takers, 2 dispatchers for the
city, 2 for Niagara, 1 for simcoe brant county and 1 supervisor..an area
much smaller than London's, but more dispatchers..
M
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RCC College of Technology
2000 Steeles Avenue West
Concord (Toronto), Ontario
L4K 4N1
416.721.6698
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:26:37 -0500
From: "Kevin Plested" <kevin@warpzone.ca>
Subject: Re: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
There are a number of ministry operated CACCs as well as a number of ministry funded and legislated, privately operated CACCs. Not just Ottawa and Toronto.
Muskoka and Parry Sound for sure are privately run, ministry funded and legislated. I believe North Bay is in that list as well.
Kevin Plested
Vaughan Fire
Muskoka CACC
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From: John H
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 13:47
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
Does Kingston not do there own dispatching? or is it MOH?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: [Scanont] Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
> Ottawa-Carleton's CACC is also privately run..ie, Not Ministry of
> Health.
>
> Ottawa and Toronto are the only two in Ontario.
>
> M
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> RCC College of Technology
> 2000 Steeles Avenue West
> Concord (Toronto), Ontario
> L4K 4N1
> 416.721.6698
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:46:52 -0000
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Niagara Region CACC (ambulance dispatch)
Mike;
The City of Ottawa operates the ambulance CACC under a 5 year contract
for the Ministry of Health.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:52:17 -0000
From: "David Reeves" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: CACC's
If you think that is bad one should take a look at how may
dispatchers/calltakers are on duty at Mississauga CACC on average.
Hugely understaffed. And Peel Region area should be broken up to 2
seperate desks, just too busy for 1 dispatcher.
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 16:28:48 -0500
From: VA3EAM <va3eam@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Belleville Police Radio system
The deputy chief from Belleville gave a presentation to the Quinte
Amateur Radio club meeting, here are the minutes of the meeting.
http://www.qarc.on.ca/minfeb03.htm
Eric
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:10:26 -0600 (CST)
From: "Willingham, Shaun" <usenet@plc.mb.ca>
Subject: STOLEN RADIO EQUIPMENT
Hi group,
Some piece of garbage stole one of my ASTRO Saber III's from a locker
today. I have filed a report with Winnipeg Police Service, but I would
appreciate everyone keeping an eye out for it.
The serial # is 310AYU0399. The radio was in mint condition, with a 7" 800
MHz whip, and a high capacity battery. Flashcode is 540008-000400-3.
Please get in touch with me via return email, or by phone 204-292-8476 if
you come across it. The value is approx. $7000CDN
The WPS Incident # is 03-45847. WPS's # is 204-986-6222.
Shaun
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:03:41 -0000
From: "Eric" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: CACC Part deux
Gentelmen:
If you had the power what would the:
CACC areas be and how many crew members at each?
Would Mississauga have its own CACC or would Halton get its own?
Could we shrink London's area?
Niagara have their own?
Pls respond
Eric
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 20:41:00 -0500
From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
Subject: Re: CACC Part deux
on 3/9/03 8:03 PM, Eric at ejb@cogeco.ca wrote:
> Pls respond
Please don't. It's really got nothing to do with scanning. Take the
discussion elsewhere.
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