[Scanont] Digest Number 1561

From: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Feb 28 2003 - 06:43:10 EST


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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Re: TPS talk ID 13056
           From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
      2. Re: TPS talk ID 13056
           From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
      3. Re: Re: TPS talk ID 13056
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
      4. Re: TPS talk ID 13056
           From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
      5. Re: Re: TPS talk ID 13056
           From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
      6. Durham Region Freq's
           From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
      7. Re: Durham Region Freq's
           From: "glen282001 <unicorn1717@hotmail.com>" <unicorn1717@hotmail.com>
      8. Re: Plates
           From: "Chuck Chivers" <ve3vsa@rac.ca>
      9. Re: TPS talk ID 13056
           From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
     10. Re: Durham Region Freq's
           From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
     11. Re: Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250
           From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
     12. Re: Trunked
           From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
     13. Re: 412.8875?
           From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com>
     14. RE: Trunked
           From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>

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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:06:20 -0500
   From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Re: TPS talk ID 13056

On February 26, 2003 03:44 pm, Bryan wrote:
> > Sorry Mike, but 71-TPS01 is 033 in hex, and 816 in
> > decimal.
> >
> > I think we have a new talkgroup on our hands
> >
> > 13056 is 330 in hex..
>
Actually it's 3300 in hex, 330 hex is actually 816 in decimal.

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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:39:33 -0000
   From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: TPS talk ID 13056

--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@i...> wrote:
> On February 26, 2003 03:44 pm, Bryan wrote:
> > > Sorry Mike, but 71-TPS01 is 033 in hex, and 816 in
> > > decimal.
> > >
> > > I think we have a new talkgroup on our hands
> > >
> > > 13056 is 330 in hex..
> >
> Actually it's 3300 in hex, 330 hex is actually 816 in decimal.

Wow. did I make a discovery here? My first on this site.

Eric

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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:43:11 +0000
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: TPS talk ID 13056

> Wow. did I make a discovery here? My first on this site.

Grin. Alright Cortez... why not find out whats actually going on on the talkgroup before you can stake claim to anything... I picked up this rogue talkgroup last week on trunker (grin), but haven't been able to figure out what is on it.

hehe

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Bryan C. Passifume, VE3HBD
Cell: (905) 867-2585
bryanpass@rogers.com

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:46:03 -0000
   From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: TPS talk ID 13056

--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Eric <ejb@c...>" <ejb@c...> wrote:
> --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@i...> wrote:
> > On February 26, 2003 03:44 pm, Bryan wrote:
> > > > Sorry Mike, but 71-TPS01 is 033 in hex, and 816 in
> > > > decimal.
> > > >
> > > > I think we have a new talkgroup on our hands
> > > >
> > > > 13056 is 330 in hex..
> > >
> > Actually it's 3300 in hex, 330 hex is actually 816 in decimal.
>
> Wow. did I make a discovery here? My first on this site.
>
> Eric

The activity I heard yesterday (Wed the 26th) was as follows:
a vehicle stop on John St, check for marker. Now it could be John
Street in Weston or downtown cause I also saw another wierd talk
group id for some activity in and around the Maple Leaf Drive area
which is close to Weston and in the 12 division area that John St in
Weston is in.

Someone mentioned that it might be a training group. I have heard
plenty of training talk groups, be it officers or dispatchers, there
was active officer talkgroups on Wednesday on listed talk group
channels.

Perhaps this is legit. If so I happy to have finally added something
to this helpful group.

Eric

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:03:52 -0500
   From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: Re: Re: TPS talk ID 13056

FWIW...

Last year, the RCMP and CSIS had a joint operation around the Maple Leaf Drive which resulted in several arrests, but they surveilled the location for something like a year and a half befor doing anything.

Maybe somebody is up to no good again?

M

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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:05:30 -0500
   From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: Durham Region Freq's

Hey all.

Other than Durham Police (obviously), what are some semi-interesting analog freq's to listen to in the Durham/Oshawa/Ajax/Whitby area? (Whitby most important).

I understand the Fire Department out there is 800MHz trunked, does anyone have any information, re. frequencies, system ID, etc...

As well as ambulance, and whatever else you guys might deem semi-interesting.

Thanks

M

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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:41:04 -0000
   From: "glen282001 <unicorn1717@hotmail.com>" <unicorn1717@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Durham Region Freq's

For MOH/ Durham Ambulance, try
155.190 CACC
155.775 cardiac Channel 5
150.100 PCOM
149.440 base paging
411.2875 north &west repeater
410.5625 east durham repeater
149.3200 Cobourg ambulance
414.4125 pcom link: all ontario, cool, but with annoying tone
Police: OPP/ DRPS etc
if driving through the area, try all the ciso simplex channels (138
to 144mhz), as they are occasional active round here, some with DES
or what sounds like astro digital mod.
142.485 Cobourg police
410.8625 veh rptr OPP
411.5125 ""
411.6875 ""
411.3125 ""
142.770 /138.750(input) air one/DRPS/TPS/OPP
149.665 opp gta east
148.765 opp sim11
durham & area fire depts.
Oshawa: see trunkedradio.net under city of Oshawa 800mhz systems
sysID 401D
ajax: 162.615
pickering/regional ops: 153.8600
whitby: 154.555
pontypool and manvers twp: 150.4700
port hope fire: 153.515
clarington:153.125

local biz:
452.5875 enbridge gas
461.4875 towing
461.6875 towing
460.925 Oshawa centre security/ drp
171.720 towing
451.1125 towing
462.4375 towing
ham
147.375
147.150
145.150
- or- ignore all this and listen to the more interesting stuff
on the Toronto systems!!!! :)
Durham scanning not quite as fun, as it used to be with DRP and OPP
easily monitored. But you knew that already :)

Enjoy,
Glen,
Oshawa scannist

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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:50:32 -0500
   From: "Chuck Chivers" <ve3vsa@rac.ca>
Subject: Re: Plates

How about APU
(all pi##ed up)

Chuck
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Wayne Wilkie <wwilkie3999@rogers.com>
  To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Scanont] Plates

  HBD with multiple +'s following to denote the level of impairment,
  (HBD+++)is used extensively in the EMS/Medical/Law Enforcement
  community throughout Ontario and I have heard it being used on
  travels throughout the US as well.

  In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Bryan <bryanpass@r...> wrote:
  Love your ham callsign!! I'm not sure how common a
  term "HBD" is outside of peel though...

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Message: 9
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:28:49 -0500
   From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
Subject: Re: TPS talk ID 13056

on 2/27/03 11:06 AM, Paul Schmidt at pschmidt@interlog.com wrote:

> On February 26, 2003 03:44 pm, Bryan wrote:
>>> Sorry Mike, but 71-TPS01 is 033 in hex, and 816 in
>>> decimal.
>>>
>>> I think we have a new talkgroup on our hands
>>>
>>> 13056 is 330 in hex..
>>
> Actually it's 3300 in hex, 330 hex is actually 816 in decimal.

I think people are getting confused a little.

71-TPS01 is actually 33 in hex. When you program it into a Motorola radio,
you enter in 33.

When that talkgroup goes out over the air, the status bits are appended and
a trunktracker type radio sees it as 330 hex which translates to 816
decimal.

So, 13056 on a trunktracker is actually 3300 in hex but you need to strip
off that extra 0 to get the real talkgroup number which in this case is tg
330.

The other thing to keep in mind is the trunktrackers are notorious for
displaying wrong tg id's. A little bit of noise on the control channel will
cause all sorts of wrong id's.

The best way is to verify it with trunker. A good signal into a trunker
setup will never steer you wrong.

-- 
Steve <sdjones@isys.ca>
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Message: 10
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:29:24 -0500
   From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
Subject: Re: Durham Region Freq's
on 2/27/03 1:05 PM, Mike Iszak at mike@warpzone.ca wrote:
> I understand the Fire Department out there is 800MHz trunked, does anyone have
> any information, re. frequencies, system ID, etc...
Www.trunkedradio.net
-- 
Steve <sdjones@isys.ca>
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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:11:10 -0500
   From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: Re: Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250
Well, right now I'm borrowing a Pro2046 scanner and it has the "Data Skip" feature on it, and noticed that while scanning all my channels, it will in fact stay on that ch. with 414.25 entered in on it for like 2 secs. and then continue scanning, so atleast with this radio, that feature will work. Kind've annoying having it stop on there for 2 secs. each time, but this scanner has fast scanning, and that freq. doesn't have the "high pitch squeal" like the some of the MOH UHF Freqs. do.
Ideally, I'd want to know how I can do this with the BC760XLT.  When I get my 760 with the tone board in it, I'll try it with entering them (PL Tone) into it, but I doubt that will work, so.....
Thanks for the suggestion however.
Randy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Fenech 
  To: scanont@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Scanont] Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250
  Ideally, you need to modify your scanner so that the squelch will NOT 
  open when it hears a continuous tone.  A simple circuit based on a 567 
  tone detector/PLL chip will accomplish this.  You would adjust the 
  detector to the frequency of the tone.  I don't have any plans handy 
  for such a circuit or how it would connect inside the scanner but I'm 
  sure you can find something on the 'net.  As I mentioned in my previous 
  message, the old "Metro (Toronto) Police mod" would do the job for you 
  if you can find any info on that.
  I was going to suggest using the "Data Skip" function if your scanner 
  has one, but I tried it on my BC-245 with a local ambulance link and it 
  doesn't work.  Does anyone know under what conditions this function 
  does work??
  --
  Michael Fenech
  Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 12
   Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:19:29 -0500
   From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
Subject: Re: Trunked
At 05:26 PM 2/26/03 -0500, Sylvia Gallus wrote:
>Requires a discriminator output, but not a data slicer (inputs to the sound
>card). I haven't tried it so I can't say anything about it... Maybe Mike can
>give us a short review?
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>Who had the non-Trunker one at the GTA Meet? (I'm sorry, I forget which one
>that was & who had it).
Pretty sure it was the guy with the IFR.
...Andy
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Message: 13
   Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:26:57 -0800
   From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: 412.8875?
Just travelled to Windsor today, 412.8875 is a beat repeater just outside of Windsor with a good signal all the way to Tilbury. 410.8625 is used all the way to Windsor as a mobile repeater frequency. I think it was 411.8875 was the MTO mobile repeaters i heard with a distinctive ping everytime it was keyed up( heard this around the milton scales). The highway rangers are using 410.8625 as i heard them set up at 401 & James Snow this afternoon. I also still hear traffic on 411.3125 but not sure what it is related to, didn't hear any com centers or anything. I will still listen as i travel around working. I use my yeasu ft-8100 with a external dualband antenna to pick this up.
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  From: ted hay 
  To: scanont@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [Scanont] 412.8875?
  Michael Fenech wrote:
  > 
  > Does anyone still hear 412.8875 being used for OPP mobile repeaters?
  > I've had it in the scanner since it was reported as OPP, but haven't
  > heard a peep.  I live near the 401, 403, 409 & 427 highways so there is
  > no lack of OPP activity and 410.8625 is very busy.
  > 
  Was hearing it late Friday night (I'm 1/2 way between London and Sarnia) with a
  weak signal.  Couldn't detect either CTSS or DCS on the signal. Definately OPP.
  Ted
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Message: 14
   Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:32:39 -0500
   From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: Trunked
Sort of off topic, but not really....
Has anyone ever used trunker or a similar program with a Motorola radio
instead of a trunking scanner?  If so, I'd be interested in learning how
it could be done.  Please contact me off-list if you can help.
Thanks in advance,
Todd
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