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Date: Thu Feb 27 2003 - 05:02:09 EST
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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Plates
From: "Sylvia Gallus" <sgallus@rogers.com>
2. Re: TPS talk ID 13056
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
3. HBD (was: Plates)
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
4. Re: Trunked
From: "Sylvia Gallus" <sgallus@rogers.com>
5. RE: HBD (was: Plates)
From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
6. Re: TPS talk ID 13056
From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
7. Re: Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
8. Peel "response"
From: "Ian Howes" <ian_howes@hotmail.com>
9. Re: Peel "response"
From: "Sylvia Gallus" <sgallus@rogers.com>
10. RE: Peel "response"
From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com>
11. Re: Trunked
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
12. Re: Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:54:33 -0500
From: "Sylvia Gallus" <sgallus@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Plates
I just ordered "LASTPL8". Something I've been pondering for a long time.
Anyone who's ever seen an MDT knows the significance of that; most people
won't see anything other than "last plate".
- Sylvia
PS. Here the info on Personalized Licence Plates from the MTO, at:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/plates.htm
Personalized Licence Plates
You may purchase a personalized plate for a passenger vehicle, commercial
vehicle or motorcycle. Passenger and commercial plates may have two to eight
characters. Motorcycles may have two to five characters.
Any combination of letters and numbers may be reserved provided the
following has not occurred:
- the combination of letters/numbers you selected has been issued, or
- your plate choice has been rejected.
Once reserved, your plate must still pass a review committee, which may
reject the plate if it is considered to be objectionable, for example:
- derogatory
- profane
- racist
- sexual
- religious.
If a request is rejected, you may send a written appeal to:
Ministry of Transportation
P.O. Box 9800
Kingston, ON
K7L 5N8
You may also convert an existing plate to a personalized plate. New
personalized plates must be manufactured and will be shipped to you.
You may also choose to add a graphic symbol to your unique personalized
plate. (Graphics are not available on motorcycles, and seven and eight
character personalized plates cannot include graphics.)
To order your plate, call 1-800-AUTO-PL8 (1-800-288-6758) or visit a Driver
and Vehicle Licence Issuing Office or ServiceOntario Kiosk
Graphic Plates
Here's an opportunity to add some colour and flair to your vehicle licence
plates. You can choose a graphic like the loon or trillium; or you can
support your favorite Ontario professional sports team, community
organization or university. There are over 40 to choose from, so go ahead,
EXPRESS YOURSELF!
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/graphic1.htm
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:05:11 -0500
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: TPS talk ID 13056
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>
wrote:
> I logged this talk id on TPS south zone it sounded like. Mentioned
> vehicle stop at John and something. is this a new one
Keep in mind that Uniden trunktrackers often show bogus talkgroups in
search mode even when the control channel sounds loud and clear.
Trunker seems to be more accurate.
-- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:09:08 -0500 From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com> Subject: HBD (was: Plates) I think it's a pretty commonly used term.... Thames EMS here in London use it regularly.. I've heard the University PD use it as well. Chris Fortner London, Ontario Canada forts@rogers.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:26:21 -0500 From: "Sylvia Gallus" <sgallus@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Trunked Requires a discriminator output, but not a data slicer (inputs to the sound card). I haven't tried it so I can't say anything about it... Maybe Mike can give us a short review? Who had the non-Trunker one at the GTA Meet? (I'm sorry, I forget which one that was & who had it). - Sylvia http://www.trunkedradio.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid =3 T4Win Windows GUI application for displaying decoded information from a trunked radio system. Control channel data is acquired by connecting a radio with discriminator output to the microphone or line input of the computer's sound card. This program has been successfully tested with discriminator outputs of the Uniden BC245XLT, Radio Shack PRO-91, and Sony ICF-SC1 radios. No additional buffering, filtering or amplification was required. Testing this program on a varienty of Windows OSes and sound cards has yielded mixed results. There is no guarantee that this software will work with your system. If it does not work for you, you may want to try the following: updated driver for your computer's operating system and sound subsystem, a different sound card, or a different computer. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:31:01 -0500 From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com> Subject: RE: HBD (was: Plates) HBD is pretty universal. I have herd this all over the U.S. Check out COPS, you will hear this from time to time as well.. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Chris Fortner [mailto:forts@rogers.com] Sent: February 26, 2003 5:09 PM To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Scanont] HBD (was: Plates) I think it's a pretty commonly used term.... Thames EMS here in London use it regularly.. I've heard the University PD use it as well. Chris Fortner London, Ontario Canada forts@rogers.com Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:31:07 -0000 From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca> Subject: Re: TPS talk ID 13056 --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Michael Fenech <mfenech@s...> wrote: > On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Eric <ejb@c...> > wrote: > > > I logged this talk id on TPS south zone it sounded like. Mentioned > > vehicle stop at John and something. is this a new one > > Keep in mind that Uniden trunktrackers often show bogus talkgroups in > search mode even when the control channel sounds loud and clear. > Trunker seems to be more accurate. > > -- > Michael Fenech > Toronto, Ontario thanks Mike: It sounded like 52 div. I heard another one, 12056 or something but was probably 12 div, mentioned a road near Humber Church hospital, Maple Leaf Drive. Eric ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:05:13 -0500 From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com> Subject: Re: Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250 Ok, then, so how am I able to put this ch. in the scanner then to be able to listen to it then, without always stopping on it for nothing? If it's not a ctcss tone freq. I have to enter in with it, what else would it be? How do I decode this I guess is the right term then. Randy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScanRenfrewCounty http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiveScannerAudio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaScan http://newscenter.ninn.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Fenech To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Scanont] Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250 Frequencies in the 414/419 MHz range are often used for links between a dispatch center and a remote transmit or receive site. They don't usually have PL tones on them. When the "carrier" tone is present, it tells the dispatch center equipment that this particular remote receiver isn't hearing any activity and to mute the audio from it. The only way to listen without the tone noise is to have a squelch that activates when it hears the marker tone. Those of us who listened to the Toronto Police back in the old days might recall having to add this feature to our scanners to block out the data signal that was continuously sent between voice transmissions. -- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.458 / Virus Database: 257 - Release Date: 24/02/2003 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:26:22 -0500 From: "Ian Howes" <ian_howes@hotmail.com> Subject: Peel "response" To those who routinely monitor the Peel system, what are the new "response" units? I just got home for reading week and can't figure out what they are responsible for, the neighborhood policing units or "NP units" are still in service, nothing seems to be different except the callsign. Ian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:17:34 -0500 From: "Sylvia Gallus" <sgallus@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Peel "response" > To those who routinely monitor the Peel system, what are the new "response" units? They're "Emergency Response Units". They were calling them "ERU" units for quite a while, but now they've started calling them "Response" units. Other than what their name implies, I don't know what their function is. Perhaps they have special equipment / special training? They don't have special vehicles, other than maybe unmarked. There are also new "B&E" Units. They do use unmarked / detective cars. Somebody's coming up with new names. I wonder what the restructuring is for. - Sylvia Gallus ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:06:59 -0500 From: "SJA505" <sja505@rogers.com> Subject: RE: Peel "response" Probably something like the TPS "COR" units... They cruise around and wait for the serious 'hot shots' to come over. As Sylvia said, though, not sure if they are heavier equipped/trained, but I assume they are. They don't appear to be tied to any specific division, as they move around a lot. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Gallus [mailto:sgallus@rogers.com] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:18 AM To: scanont@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Scanont] Peel "response" > To those who routinely monitor the Peel system, what are the new "response" units? They're "Emergency Response Units". They were calling them "ERU" units for quite a while, but now they've started calling them "Response" units. Other than what their name implies, I don't know what their function is. Perhaps they have special equipment / special training? They don't have special vehicles, other than maybe unmarked. There are also new "B&E" Units. They do use unmarked / detective cars. Somebody's coming up with new names. I wonder what the restructuring is for. - Sylvia Gallus Looking for trunked radio information? Try http://www.trunkedradio.net. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:51:53 -0500 From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Trunked On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 05:26 PM, Sylvia Gallus wrote: > Requires a discriminator output, but not a data slicer (inputs to the > sound > card). I haven't tried it so I can't say anything about it... I downloaded Trunker for Windows (T4Win) earlier this week and have played with it a little. It appears to work flawlessly at following a system as well as collecting talkgroups and radio ids. The biggest advantage to the Windows version is that all system data is available at any time via the GUI. There is no need to look at the configuration files. All systems that the program has "seen" are displayed in a list on the left hand side of the screen. Selecting a system will show its channels, radio ids and talkgroup lists, as well as real-time system activity if it is currently being monitored. I'm running it on a 1.7 GHz machine under Windows XP Pro. It gets it's data through the sound card from the discriminator tap on an old PRO-2004. One drawback in the current version is that it will not collect data on an ASTRO system and therefore does not work with the GMCP system. The author claims that this will be fixed in the next release. -- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 02:22:17 -0500 From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Renfrew Co. Fire 414.250 On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 09:05 PM, Champ wrote: > Ok, then, so how am I able to put this ch. in the scanner then to be > able to listen to it then, without always stopping on it for nothing? Ideally, you need to modify your scanner so that the squelch will NOT open when it hears a continuous tone. A simple circuit based on a 567 tone detector/PLL chip will accomplish this. You would adjust the detector to the frequency of the tone. I don't have any plans handy for such a circuit or how it would connect inside the scanner but I'm sure you can find something on the 'net. As I mentioned in my previous message, the old "Metro (Toronto) Police mod" would do the job for you if you can find any info on that. I was going to suggest using the "Data Skip" function if your scanner has one, but I tried it on my BC-245 with a local ambulance link and it doesn't work. Does anyone know under what conditions this function does work?? -- Michael Fenech Toronto, Ontario ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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