[Scanont] Digest Number 1543

From: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Feb 13 2003 - 23:18:34 EST


Looking for trunked radio information?
Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Re: digital scanners
           From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca>
      2. RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
      3. Best Buys
           From: "Mel" <robinson4724@rogers.com>
      4. Re: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
      5. Re: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: "mike_morassutti <mike@climetsystems.com>" <mike@climetsystems.com>
      6. Balinafad Twr
           From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
      7. Re: Re: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
      8. Re: Action required: LDUD-5JGLTY - INFO.IC Enquiry
           From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
      9. Digital Scanners Etc
           From: "Gord <bassmaster_65321@yahoo.com>" <bassmaster_65321@yahoo.com>
     10. Toronto ATIS Freqs.
           From: "Bob Lyle" <bob_lyle@sympatico.ca>
     11. Re: Toronto ATIS Freqs.
           From: "Mike Ciupa <mciupa@excite.com>" <mciupa@excite.com>
     12. RE: Re: Toronto ATIS Freqs.
           From: "Bob Lyle" <bob_lyle@sympatico.ca>
     13. RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
     14. Re: digital scanners
           From: "SpongeBob <mycatisdumb@yahoo.com>" <mycatisdumb@yahoo.com>
     15. Re: Re: digital scanners
           From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
     16. Re: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
     17. Re: Re: digital scanners
           From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
     18. GMCP site 6 Primrose
           From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
     19. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
           From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
     20. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
           From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
     21. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
           From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
     22. Re: digital scanners
           From: "Randy <scnnr@yahoo.com>" <scnnr@yahoo.com>
     23. Re: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
     24. Re: Re: digital scanners
           From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
     25. Re: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>

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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:40:39 -0500
   From: "Len G. Carpenter" <Len.C@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Re: digital scanners

What messages? Joe ain't posted a message here in a coons age.

>
>
> And no offense, Joe.. but you really need to learn how to edit your
> replies. My eyes ache every time I try to figure out what you wrote in
> a replied message. Its usually buried in the middle of miles of mostly
> irrelevant quoted text. its getting to the point where I just skip your
> messages, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way.
>
> Looking for trunked radio information?
> Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:04:34 -0500
   From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
Subject: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B

Bryan,
I looked for your scanner on the sites where I found mine and had no
luck. The link below is the most updated list from Bill Checks
original. You may find your chipset there and have luck that way.

Good Luck.

Chris

http://members.ulster.net/~petrow/discriminator.zip

TABLE 1: SCANNER NFM DISCRIMINATOR CHIPS & PINS
Updated 03/27/99 09/23/00 01/12/2002 05/17/2002
         09/20/2002

                  DISCR/DET CKT BASEBAND
SCANNER CHIP TYPE SYMBOL AUDIO PIN
============== ============== ======= =========
unknown MPS5071 n/a 9
AR-1000 TA-7787AF IC-4 9
AR-2002 MC-3357P IC-4 9
AR-2500 TA-7761P IC-13 9
AR-3000 MC-3357P IC-1 9
AR-800 MC-3361N IC-200 9
AR-900 MC-3361N IC-201 9
AR-950 MC-3361N IC-201 9
AR-8000 NFM TK10489M or-85M U1 11
AR-8000 WFM/AM TA7792F U3 8
BC-20/20 NB5310-1 ? 9 *
BC-60XLT-1 MC3361BD IC-1 9
BC-70XLT LSC1359P IC-1 9 *
BC-80XLT MC3361B0 IC-101 9
BC-100XL MC-3359P IC-1 10
BC-100XLT TK-10421M-2 IC-401 11
BC-120XLT MC3361BD IC-1 9
BC-140XLT MC-3359P IC-1 10 *
BC-160 CA3089N IC-1 6
BC-200XLT TK-10421M-2 IC-401 11
BC-205XLT TK-10421M-2 IC-401 11
BC-210 SC8780P/MC3357P IC-2 9
BC-220 SC8780P/MC3357P IC-2 9
BC-220XLT MC3361BD IC-1 9 *
BC-235XLT MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9
BC-244CLT MC3361CDR2 IC-101 9
BC-245XLT MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9
BC-248CLT MC3361CDR2 IC-101 9
BC-278CLT MC3361CD ? 9
BC-250 SC8780P/MC3357P IC-3 9
BC-350A NJM-3359D-A IC-3 10
BC-400XLT NJM-3359D-A IC-1 10
BC-550XLT TK10421 ? 11
BC-560XLT NJM-3359D-A IC-1 10
BC-700A NJM-3359D-A IC-3 10
BC-760XLT NJM-3359D-A IC-2 10
BC-780XLT MC3371D IC-6 9
BC-800XLT MC-3359P IC-1 10
BC-855XLT TK-10421M-2 IC-401 11
BC-890XLT NJM-3359D-A IC-3 10
BC-895XLT MC3371D IC-3 9
BC-950XLT NJM-3359D-A IC-2 10
BC-2500XLT TK-10930VTL IC-201 12-FM 13-AM
BC-3000 NFM/AM TK-10930V IC-202 12-NFM 13-AM
BC-3000 WFM TK-10489M IC-203 11
BC-8500XLT MC-3361BP IC-9 9
BC-9000XLT MC3361B0 IC-8 9
BC-9000XLT WFM TK10489-MTL IC-9 11
BC-9000XLT AM LA1600A IC7 8 or 9 (?)
BCT-7 MC3361BD IC-2 9
HX-1000 TK-10420 U-201 9
ICF-SC1PC (Sony) TA31136FN IC-401 9
ICF-SC1 (Sony) TA31136FN IC-401 9
Icom IC-2SRA MC-3372 ? 9 *
Icom R-1 NFM TK-10487 DET-A IC-1 11
Icom R-1 WFM TA-7787AF DET-B IC-1 9
Icom R100 NFM MC3357P 9 (Near Bottom of radio)
Icom RC2 Connector J1 pin 16, use a 0.1uF cap
Icom R7100 Said to be "top of R230 on main PCB" *
MR-8100 NJM-3359D-A IC-3 10
MX-5000 MC-3357P IC-4 9
MX-7000 MC-3357P IC-4 9
Maxtrac (Mot) 79G05 QLMD9035 6 (Behind the channel-up
button)
PRO-2002 MC-3357P IC-101 9
PRO-2003 MC-3357P IC-104 9
PRO-2004 NFM/AM TK-10420 IC-2 9 (TP4)
PRO-2004 WFM KB4419A IC-1 6 (TP3)
PRO-2005 NFM/AM TK-10420 IC-2 9 (TP2)
PRO-2005 WFM KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1 10 (TP1)
PRO-2006 NFM/AM TK-10420 IC-2 9 (TP2)
PRO-2006 WFM KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1 10 (TP1)
PRO-2011 TK-10420 IC-1 9
PRO-2020 MC-3357P IC-101 9
PRO-2021 TK-10420 IC-2 9
PRO-2022 MC-3361N IC-1 9
PRO-2023 NJM-3359D-A ? 10
PRO-2024 MC-3361N IC-2 9
PRO-2025 NJM-3359D-A IC-1 10
PRO-2026 NJM-3359D-A IC-7 10
PRO-2027 MC-3361N IC-2 9
PRO-2028 NJM-3359D-A IC-2 10
PRO-2030 NJM-3359D-A IC-3 10
PRO-2032 MC-3361 IC-2 9 (TP5)
PRO-2035 NFM/AM TK-10420 IC-2 9 (TP2)
PRO-2035 WFM KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1 10 (TP1)
PRO-2038 NJM-3359DA IC-3 10
PRO-2039 NFM KA3361 IC-2 9 (use TP6)
PRO-2040 MC3361BP IC-2 9
PRO-2041 MC3361N IC-301 9 *
PRO-2042 NFM/AM TK-10420 IC-2 9 (TP2)
PRO-2042 WFM KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1 10 (TP1)
PRO-2048 MC3361CDR2 ? 9
PRO-2050 MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9 *
PRO-2052 MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9
PRO-2053 KA3361CD/-ED IC-6 9
PRO-2067 KA3361BD/-CD/-ED IC-301 9
PRO-23 MC-3361BD IC-1 9
PRO-24 MC3361BP IC-2 9 *
PRO-26 NFM/AM TK-10930V IC-14 12-NFM 13-AM
PRO-26 WFM TK-10489M IC-16 11
PRO-31 TK-10420 IC-1 9
PRO-32 TK-10420 IC-101 9
PRO-34 TK-10420 IC-101 9
PRO-35 TK-10421M-2 IC-401 11
PRO-36 TK-10420 IC-101 9
PRO-37 TK-10420 IC-101 9 (TP103)
PRO-38 MC-3359P IC-1 10
PRO-39 MC-3361N IC-201 9
PRO-41 MC-3359P IC-1 10
PRO-42 MC-3361N IC-2 9
PRO-43 TK-10427/-10420 IC-301 9
PRO-44 MC-3361N IC-201 9
PRO-46 TK-10421M-3LT IC-401 11
PRO-49 MC3361BP IC-2 9
PRO-51 MC3361BD IC-1 9
PRO-60 TA31136FN IC-301 9
PRO-62 KA3361 IC-301 9 *
PRO-64 MC3361N IC-301 9
PRO-66 MC3361N IC-2 9 (TP3) *
PRO-71 MC3361BD IC-1 9
PRO-74 MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9
PRO-79 KA3361CD/-ED IC-3 9
PRO-89 KA3361CD/-ED IC-4 9
PRO-90 MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9
PRO-91 MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9
PRO-92 KA3361BD/-CD IC-301 9
PRO-93 KA3361CD/-ED IC-6 9
PRO-94 MC3361CDR2 IC-2 9
R-1600 NJM-3359D-A IC-2 10
R-4030 TK-10421M-2 IC-401 11
SR-15 (Cobra) TK-10421D-2 IC-1 9
Shinwa SR001 MC3357P ? 9
Standard CCR708A TK-10420D Q602 9 *
TurboScan 2 3130-6056-502 U-201 10 or 16
WiNRADiO NFM MC-3372D U2 9 TP20
WiNRADiO AM/WFM TA-7640AP U5 9 TP29
WiNRADiO SSB LM324M U6 1
Yaesu FRG-9600 MC-3357P ? 9 *
Yupiteru MVT8000 MC3361 ? 9
=====================================================
* Not personally verified by me

     TABLE 2
DISCRIM OUTPUT
CHIP PIN
========= ======
KA3361 9
MC3357P 9
MC3359P 10
MC3361 9
MC3371 9
MC3372D 9
MPS5071 9
NJM3359DA 10
TA31136FN 9
TA7640AP 9
TA7761P 9
TA7787AF 9
TA7792F 8
TK10420 9
TK10421D 9
TK10421M 11
TK10427 9
TK10485M 11
TK10487 11
TK10489M 11
TK10930V 12
CXA1111N 21 AM/WFM Only
HA12413 9 WFM Only
KA2243N 9 WFM Only
KB4419A 6 WFM Only

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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:42:29 -0500
   From: "Mel" <robinson4724@rogers.com>
Subject: Best Buys

I know there is a problem with purchasing this scanner but,,,

Here is a nice page to compare current pricing on the (Uniden BC)250, 785
and i25D:

All US dealers of course.

http://www.freqofnature.com/pricewatch/index.html

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:16:34 -0500
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Discriminator Tap SC180B

> I looked for your scanner on the sites where I found mine and had no
> luck. The link below is the most updated list from Bill Checks
> original. You may find your chipset there and have luck that way.

Yeah, I figured that.... The Sc180's was after Bill's time... so I
kinda knew it wouldn't have made it onto his list (grn) I'll do some
searching. Thakns for the help, though!

bryan

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:52:38 -0000
   From: "mike_morassutti <mike@climetsystems.com>" <mike@climetsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Discriminator Tap SC180B

Bryan: If you want someone else to do a d-tap for you,
and if you live nearby, try Durham Radio. Got one of
my radios done for about $20. I was satisfied with
the results.

Mike Morassutti/

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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:32:37 -0500
   From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Balinafad Twr

Apparently the Baliafad tower will be down for maintenance this afternoon from 13:00 to 17:00.

On a nother note 21 chemical cars from a CP train have derailed north of Parry Sound.

J.

"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970

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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:56:04 -0500
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Discriminator Tap SC180B

> Bryan: If you want someone else to do a d-tap for you,
> and if you live nearby, try Durham Radio. Got one of
> my radios done for about $20. I was satisfied with
> the results.

yeah.. I was thinking about that..... if I don't have any luck I'll go
visit them.

Thanks!!

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Message: 8
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:26:26 -0500
   From: "Steve St. Denis" <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Action required: LDUD-5JGLTY - INFO.IC Enquiry

This is the last reply from the government of Canada about digital
scanners, This reply and the other reply I posted should clear up what you
will need to know if you want to buy one of these digital scanners in
Canada. It really is pretty strait forward if you listen to what they are
saying. If you need some one to explain it to you then just send an e-mail
to the government and then you will not get 15 different interpretations.
from people on this list, I think this should clear this up once and for
all.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Steckly.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: <steve.st@sympatico.ca>
Cc: <Duford.Lee@ic.gc.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:04 PM
Subject: FW: Action required: LDUD-5JGLTY - INFO.IC Enquiry

-----Original Message-----
From: Steckly, Gary: DGRB
Sent: February 12, 2003 4:18 PM
To: steve@sympatico.ca
Cc: Petrin, Lyse: DGRB; Duford, Lee: #CIO - BPI
Subject: RE: Action required: LDUD-5JGLTY - INFO.IC Enquiry
Importance: High

Radio scanners that are capable of receiving digitally encoded transmissions
must be approved and receive a Technical
Acceptance Certificate under the provisions of RSS-135 (
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/sf01065e.html ). These types of scanners
however are not exempt from the requirements of licensing as is the case
with analogue scanners, and licences are issued subject to the criteria
outlined in IPC 2-1-04 (http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/sf01264e.html ).

If the scanner you wish to purchase has been approved and carries a TAC, it
can be sold and licensed for use in Canada.

If you need further information on this or any matter related to spectrum
management in Canada, please feel free to contact me directly.

regards

Gary Steckly
Technical Policy Analyst
Radiocommunicaitons and Broadcasting Regulatory Branch
steckly.gary@ic.gc.ca
Tel | Téléphone (613) 990-4742
Fax | Télécopieur (613) 991-3514
Industry Canada 300 Slater St. Ottawa ON K1A 0C8
Industrie Canada 300, rue Slater Ottawa ON K1A 0C8
Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada
http://strategis.gc.ca/spectrum

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Message: 9
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:49:33 -0000
   From: "Gord <bassmaster_65321@yahoo.com>" <bassmaster_65321@yahoo.com>
Subject: Digital Scanners Etc

I have looked through the previous posts regarding this issue and
from what I read at IC website, seems that the general public for
the most part is gonna be left out in the cold as far as buying a
digital scanner goes.

I guess the only way around it I can see is to join an " approved"
organization, have them buy it for you and pay them for the scanner.

The price is a little scary right now as it is.

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Message: 10
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:56:51 -0500
   From: "Bob Lyle" <bob_lyle@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Toronto ATIS Freqs.

Going back a few weeks here, but someone questioned their poor reception of
the Pearson ATIS frequencies on 120.825 and 133.1 MHz when compared to
regular ATC operations. Sorry it took so long to find out, but they are
running at reduced power compared to the ATC frequencies. 133.1 is the lower
power of the pair at only 25% of the regular channels.

Bob

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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:07:08 -0000
   From: "Mike Ciupa <mciupa@excite.com>" <mciupa@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Toronto ATIS Freqs.

--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Lyle" <bob_lyle@s...> wrote:
someone questioned their poor reception of the Pearson ATIS
frequencies.

Thank you for your reply Bob. That was me, I was beginning to think
that I had posted the message with white text.
Luckily zeroing out the squelch on AM doesn't produce much noise
and I can hear ATIS when I do that.
I prefer monitoring Unicoms and usually will monitor Pearson when I
hear a flight coming in "after-hours".

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Message: 12
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:13:55 -0500
   From: "Bob Lyle" <bob_lyle@sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: Re: Toronto ATIS Freqs.

You're welcome Mike. This week was the first time I was actually at the
transmitter site in many years and while I was there I remembered to check
the outputs. I used to maintain those radios, but have since moved into
other areas of ATC systems maintenance at Pearson.

>
> Thank you for your reply Bob. That was me, I was beginning to think
> that I had posted the message with white text.

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Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:28:05 -0500
   From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
Subject: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B

This list has actually been maintained by others since Bill pasted away.
If you have any luck with a more updated one, please let me (us) know.
 
Thanks
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan [mailto:bryanpass@rogers.com]
Sent: February 13, 2003 10:17 AM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Discriminator Tap SC180B

> I looked for your scanner on the sites where I found mine and had no
> luck. The link below is the most updated list from Bill Checks
> original. You may find your chipset there and have luck that way.

Yeah, I figured that.... The Sc180's was after Bill's time... so I
kinda knew it wouldn't have made it onto his list (grn) I'll do some
searching. Thakns for the help, though!

bryan

Looking for trunked radio information?
Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Message: 14
   Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:08:41 -0000
   From: "SpongeBob <mycatisdumb@yahoo.com>" <mycatisdumb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: digital scanners

I still can't get over it being legal in the USA and not Canada...
>
> Joe

I now have a BC-250D AND (<--- keyword!) the digital card.
I am a licensed amateur radio operator, so I meet IC's criteria of
who may purchase the unit. I bought them at Radioworld, licensing the
radio is my responsibility AFTER the sale.

Both the 785 and 250 are both APPROVED by IC and can be sold with or
without the digital card.

Bob

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Message: 15
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:22:38 -0500
   From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Re: digital scanners

I thought you were waiting ;) So are you suggesting that your 250 has a TAC?

J.

"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: SpongeBob <mycatisdumb@yahoo.com>
  To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 20:08 PM
  Subject: [Scanont] Re: digital scanners

  ....I now have a BC-250D AND (<--- keyword!) the digital card.
  I am a licensed amateur radio operator, so I meet IC's criteria of
  who may purchase the unit. I bought them at Radioworld, licensing the
  radio is my responsibility AFTER the sale.

  Both the 785 and 250 are both APPROVED by IC and can be sold with or
  without the digital card.

  Bob

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Message: 16
   Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 1:22:42 +0000
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B

> This list has actually been maintained by others since
> Bill pasted away. If you have any luck with a more
> updated one, please let me (us) know.

I found the relevant chip on my scanner (MC3361 if anyone is curious). Now all I've got to do is find a 10uF tantalum capacitor somewhere (grin).

____________

Bryan C. Passifume, VE3HBD
Cell: (905) 867-2585
bryanpass@rogers.com

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Message: 17
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:30:33 -0500
   From: Steve Jones <s.jones@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: digital scanners

on 2/13/03 8:08 PM, SpongeBob <mycatisdumb@yahoo.com> at
mycatisdumb@yahoo.com wrote:

> I now have a BC-250D AND (<--- keyword!) the digital card.
> I am a licensed amateur radio operator, so I meet IC's criteria of
> who may purchase the unit. I bought them at Radioworld, licensing the
> radio is my responsibility AFTER the sale.

Actually you meet IC's criteria for someone who may be issued a licence to
possess a digital scanner. You must still apply for this licence. This is
from IPC-2-1-04 in the files section. It only says that licenced amateurs
may be granted a licence. It's not a for sure thing

Here's the blurb from the IC message posted earlier today:

"These types of scanners
however are not exempt from the requirements of licensing as is the case
with analogue scanners, and licences are issued subject to the criteria
outlined in IPC 2-1-04 (http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/sf01264e.html )."

Apply for a licence and let us know how you make out.

-- 
Steve <s.jones@rogers.com>
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Message: 18
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:20:17 -0500
   From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: GMCP site 6 Primrose
143.115 added.
--
Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 19
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:25:18 -0500
   From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 11:27  AM, jefflong99 
<chopper9@mobile.rogers.com> wrote:
> I posted a request earlier to see if anyone knew if the urban
> repeater was being used in downtown TO for Queens Park and other
> Provincial posts for the OPP.
I also heard this in use during a fire alarm once at the Ontario 
Government buildings downtown.  Oddly enough, someone has added it to 
the GMCP listing on trunkedradio.net although it is not part of that 
system in any way.
--
Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 20
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:37:27 -0500
   From: Steve Jones <sdjones@isys.ca>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
on 2/13/03 9:25 PM, Michael Fenech at mfenech@sympatico.ca wrote:
> I also heard this in use during a fire alarm once at the Ontario
> Government buildings downtown.  Oddly enough, someone has added it to
> the GMCP listing on trunkedradio.net although it is not part of that
> system in any way.
It was already correctly identified as belonging to the system in the
Orillia area.  There it rebroadcasts the Orillia cars on the Fleetnet
system.
It's new entry on the trunkedradio.net site seemed to imply it was a Toronto
wide frequency.  From what I've heard so far, it seems to be limited in use
downtown for just the OPP units patrolling the government buildings and has
no link to the Fleetnet system at all.
-- 
Steve <sdjones@isys.ca>
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Message: 21
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:59:58 -0500
   From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 09:37  PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> From what I've heard so far, it seems to be limited in use downtown 
> for just the OPP units
> patrolling the government buildings and has no link to the Fleetnet 
> system at all.
That's exactly right.  I'd guess they just took it from the pool of 
available Ontario Government frequencies.
The repeater does put out a good signal coming in strong at my location 
over 15 km from downtown.
--
Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 22
   Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 03:38:20 -0000
   From: "Randy  <scnnr@yahoo.com>" <scnnr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: digital scanners
It only says that licenced amateurs
> may be granted a licence.  
You know I really do get fed up with those kind of remarks.  I am 52 
yrs old and have been listening to scanners, shortwave and other 
radio coms for long over 20 yrs.  I commend all those that go out and 
take their amateur licence if they so choose to, but I rally am 
getting tired of someone assuming that an amatuer is anymore 
responsible, privileged or knowledgeable than me or any other scanner 
hobbyist.
Sorry for this little rant but I keep reading this in various groups 
and sites and it really makes me sick.  
Randy Hylands
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Message: 23
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:44:21 -0500
   From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
Subject: Re: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B
At 01:22 AM 2/14/03 +0000, Bryan wrote:
>I found the relevant chip on my scanner (MC3361 if anyone is curious). Now
all I've got to do is find a 10uF tantalum capacitor somewhere (grin). 
You don't need tantalum or 10uF.  If you're feeding a data slicer, 0.1 or
0.22uF is plenty.  If you're feeding a sound card, you don't need anything.
 Tantalum caps are only preferred due to their small size (where needed).
...Andy
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Message: 24
   Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:11:35 -0500
   From: Andrew Porrett <wap@ica.net>
Subject: Re: Re: digital scanners
Don't worry about it.  It looks like hams will only be allowed to have
digital scanners that _only_ receive ham frequencies.  Since such a scanner
doesn't exist (and very likely never will), no special privileges here.
At 03:38 AM 2/14/03 -0000, Randy  <scnnr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>It only says that licenced amateurs
>> may be granted a licence.  
>
>You know I really do get fed up with those kind of remarks.
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Message: 25
   Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 4:18:18 +0000
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: RE: Discriminator Tap SC180B
> You don't need tantalum or 10uF.  If you're feeding a 
> data slicer, 0.1 or 0.22uF is plenty.  If you're feeding > a sound card, you don't need anything. Tantalum caps are > only preferred due to their small size (where needed).
It'll be feeding a data slicer... my laptop is sans soundcard.
So any capacitor will do, eh? Thats good.. I have no clue where even to get a tantalum capacitor (i've long been a Radio Shack shopper for my electronic stuff (grin))
I assume a capacitor is required....
Thanks !!
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Bryan C. Passifume, VE3HBD
Cell: (905) 867-2585
bryanpass@rogers.com
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