From: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Feb 08 2003 - 23:13:49 EST
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: weather radio in Montreal
From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
2. 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
From: "jefflong99 <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>" <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>
3. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
4. St. Thomas Police Question...
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
5. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
From: ironside <ironside30@rogers.com>
6. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
7. RE: St. Thomas Police Question...
From: "SJA" <sja505@rogers.com>
8. Re: Re: weather radio in Montreal
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
9. Re: St. Thomas Police Question...
From: ted hay <tedh1@sympatico.ca>
10. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
11. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
12. Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
13. Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
From: ted hay <tedh1@sympatico.ca>
14. Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
15. Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
16. Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
17. Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
From: "jefflong99 <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>" <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>
18. Durham Region Fire
From: "jefflong99 <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>" <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>
19. Re: Durham Region Fire
From: rsh@idirect.com
20. FA: Uniden BC760XLT Scanner
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
21. Waterloo Region Edacs
From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com>
22. Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
23. Re: Durham Region Fire
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
24. Re: weather radio in Montreal
From: "jets_1961 <jets1961@hotmail.com>" <jets1961@hotmail.com>
25. Re: St. Thomas Police Question...
From: "jets_1961 <jets1961@hotmail.com>" <jets1961@hotmail.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 14:53:50 -0000
From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: weather radio in Montreal
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "John H" <sudsyjkh@s...> wrote:
> The thing sinse they switched to French/English is that they don't
give the
> "discution" part of the warning bulliton...all they give is the
area and
> nothing about reports or expected track or anything like that
[which they
> enclude on the web-based version of the statement]
Thhe lack of discussion is cutbacks. At one time the Toronto station
did forcasts for Simcoe, Orillia, way up north, hourly climate for
cities in all Ontario and climate data. Since 1996 this has been
sharply cut back.
It is not a F/E thing
Eric
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mike@c...>
> To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:22 AM
> Subject: [Scanont] Re: weather radio in Montreal
>
>
> >
> > > Eric Bernstein
> > > Hamilton
> > >
> > > P.S It is great too listen to the weather in both languages. You
> > > learn a lot about the languages that way.
> >
> > Eric: You make a good point. I do not have a problem with
> > Wx transmissions in both languages. It should be like that.
> > My concern is with the utility, or usefulness of, such
> > broadcasts when the weather info is needed quickly.
> > If both French/English are broadcasted on the same freq,
> > then the cycle, in my opinion takes, too long. I provided
> > a possible solution to this dilemma in a previous thread.
> > Perhaps two separate freqs, 1 FR & 1 EN could be used,
> > instead of both languages on 1 freq.
> >
> > All the best...Mike/
> >
> >
> > Looking for trunked radio information?
> > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:27:14 -0000
From: "jefflong99 <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>" <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>
Subject: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
I posted a request earlier to see if anyone knew if the urban
repeater was being used in downtown TO for Queens Park and other
Provincial posts for the OPP.
I have since discovered myself that it is and at least in Toronto the
urban repeater has a PL of 100.0.
Cheers.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 12:29:15 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
Queens Park isn't done by the OPP anymore.
It's done by some other Government entity, I forget the name.
They have 2 talkgroups on the Toronto Police System.
Mike
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 12:48:36 -0500
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
Subject: St. Thomas Police Question...
I was listening to St. Thomas PD last night as they were doing a shift
change... Officers would book on the air, and the dispatcher would tell
them to 'click their portable'... You'd hear the radio get keyed a few
times, then the dispatcher would say '10-4, you have portable 104'... How
is this done? Is the radio transmitting a data burst of some sort? They
are not using a trunked system, just typical VHF....
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:31:06 -0800
From: ironside <ironside30@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
Jeff it is being used by macdonald block at bay and Wellesley and the rest
of the government lsst I knew it is OPP that does the security in those
buildings hope that helps
they used to bo on 140.940 some time ago
>I posted a request earlier to see if anyone knew if the urban
>repeater was being used in downtown TO for Queens Park and other
>Provincial posts for the OPP.
>
>I have since discovered myself that it is and at least in Toronto the
>urban repeater has a PL of 100.0.
>
>Cheers.
>
>
>Looking for trunked radio information?
>Try <http://www.trunkedradio.net.>http://www.trunkedradio.net.
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:48:21 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
This link from a couple of years ago suggests it is a stand alone service of the Legislative Assembly called Legislative Security with back up from the TPS and the OPP. It discusses the new service in it's infancy but doesn't have any current info: <http://www.ontla.on.ca/hansard/committee_debates/36_parl/session1/assembly/m033.htm>
Click on: SEMIANNUAL REVIEW: SERGEANT AT ARMS at the top of the page.
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Iszak
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
Queens Park isn't done by the OPP anymore.
It's done by some other Government entity, I forget the name.
They have 2 talkgroups on the Toronto Police System.
Mike
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:13:36 -0500
From: "SJA" <sja505@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: St. Thomas Police Question...
What they are doing is using a software program to track radios.
Probably something like STAT. When they key up their radios, it sends
an ID to the software indicating that the radio has transmitted. They
attach a unit number to that car radio when they do their check, and
then they link the portable to the mobile when they key that up.
The software will show the dispatcher a list of the last 10 or so radios
that have keyed up. This is how they keep track of people that called
in and were told to stand by. Also, if someone hits the panic button,
the radio sends the same burst, and their screen will flash or an alarm
will go off, etc. so the dispatcher can see who needs backup.... or fell
asleep and set off the 'dead man' switch in the radio :-)
Hope this helps...
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Fortner [mailto:forts@rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:49 PM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Scanont] St. Thomas Police Question...
I was listening to St. Thomas PD last night as they were doing a shift
change... Officers would book on the air, and the dispatcher would tell
them to 'click their portable'... You'd hear the radio get keyed a few
times, then the dispatcher would say '10-4, you have portable 104'...
How
is this done? Is the radio transmitting a data burst of some sort?
They
are not using a trunked system, just typical VHF....
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
Looking for trunked radio information?
Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 12:50:41 -0500
From: "John H" <sudsyjkh@softhome.net>
Subject: Re: Re: weather radio in Montreal
Well up here they just stopped doing the "discussion" the same day they
switched to doing the f/e!
----- Original Message -----
From: <ejb@cogeco.ca>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: [Scanont] Re: weather radio in Montreal
> --- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "John H" <sudsyjkh@s...> wrote:
> > The thing sinse they switched to French/English is that they don't
> give the
> > "discution" part of the warning bulliton...all they give is the
> area and
> > nothing about reports or expected track or anything like that
> [which they
> > enclude on the web-based version of the statement]
>
>
> Thhe lack of discussion is cutbacks. At one time the Toronto station
> did forcasts for Simcoe, Orillia, way up north, hourly climate for
> cities in all Ontario and climate data. Since 1996 this has been
> sharply cut back.
> It is not a F/E thing
>
> Eric
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mike@c...>
> > To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:22 AM
> > Subject: [Scanont] Re: weather radio in Montreal
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > Eric Bernstein
> > > > Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > P.S It is great too listen to the weather in both languages. You
> > > > learn a lot about the languages that way.
> > >
> > > Eric: You make a good point. I do not have a problem with
> > > Wx transmissions in both languages. It should be like that.
> > > My concern is with the utility, or usefulness of, such
> > > broadcasts when the weather info is needed quickly.
> > > If both French/English are broadcasted on the same freq,
> > > then the cycle, in my opinion takes, too long. I provided
> > > a possible solution to this dilemma in a previous thread.
> > > Perhaps two separate freqs, 1 FR & 1 EN could be used,
> > > instead of both languages on 1 freq.
> > >
> > > All the best...Mike/
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking for trunked radio information?
> > > Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
>
>
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> Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:46:38 -0500
From: ted hay <tedh1@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: St. Thomas Police Question...
Isn't there a data burst at keyup? Strathroy Police I think have the same noise
at keyup.
Ted
Chris Fortner wrote:
>
> I was listening to St. Thomas PD last night as they were doing a shift
> change... Officers would book on the air, and the dispatcher would tell
> them to 'click their portable'... You'd hear the radio get keyed a few
> times, then the dispatcher would say '10-4, you have portable 104'... How
> is this done? Is the radio transmitting a data burst of some sort? They
> are not using a trunked system, just typical VHF....
>
> Chris Fortner
> London, Ontario Canada
> forts@rogers.com
>
> Looking for trunked radio information?
> Try http://www.trunkedradio.net.
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:06:56 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
One more link for those that may be interested: <http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/jt199899/jtselect/jtpriv/43/43ap36.htm>
In 1992 the Assembly assumed control of security within the legislative precincts. A Memorandum of Understanding was signed with the Ministry of the Solicitor General for the provision of security services. In 1996, the Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly reviewed the question of security and recommended that the Assembly have its own, independent, stand-alone security service. As a result, the security services previously contracted from the Ontario Provincial Police and the Ontario Government Protective Service were assumed by the Assembly, which created its own Legislative Security Service. Matters of security (eg policy-making, policy implementation, recruitment) are now under the control of the Assembly, with the Speaker and the Sergeant-at-Arms having the most prominent role. See sections 103 and 104 of the Legislative Assembly Act.
But the best results come from TAFL: 172.950000 TORONTO, ONT. METRO AREA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO LEGISLATIVE SECURITY SERVICES
J.
"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Iszak
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
Queens Park isn't done by the OPP anymore.
It's done by some other Government entity, I forget the name.
They have 2 talkgroups on the Toronto Police System.
Mike
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:13:59 -0500
From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
A few more:
Tx Frequency (MHz) Rx Frequency (MHz) Station Location Licensee Name
406.787500 406.787500 QUEEN'S PARK, (LEGISLATIVE SERVICE) LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO ATTN: GABE DUNLOP
408.487500 406.787500 QUEEN'S PARK, (LEGISLATIVE SERVICE) LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO ATTN: GABE DUNLOP
412.562500 412.562500 QUEEN'S PARK, (LEGISLATIVE SERVICE) LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO ATTN: GABE DUNLOP
413.512500 413.512500 QUEEN'S PARK, (LEGISLATIVE SERVICE) LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO ATTN: GABE DUNLOP
417.562500 412.562500 QUEEN'S PARK, (LEGISLATIVE SERVICE) LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO ATTN: GABE DUNLOP
418.512500 413.512500 QUEEN'S PARK, (LEGISLATIVE SERVICE) LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO ATTN: GABE DUNLOP
J.
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:25:43 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
> You'd hear the radio get keyed a few
> times, then the dispatcher would say '10-4, you have portable 104'...
> How
> is this done? Is the radio transmitting a data burst of some sort?
> They
> are not using a trunked system, just typical VHF....
So you hear some sort of noise at the start of all transmissions?
If you hear a "SSQUAAAWK!", they're using whats called MDC1200. Its a
proprietary Motorola signalling format. It transmits a 32 bit data
packet at 1200 baud, and includes error correction. Its used for
PTT-ID, emergency signalling, etc. Some mobile units also use this data
to transmit GPS tracking on the cheap - a unit's location is updated
everytime someone keys their radio.
A little rarer, but if you hear a "BLEEPBLIDOOP!" sound (like what you
hear on COPS all the time to bleep out bad words and licence plates),
they're using whats called MODAT. MODAT's an old system that only
transmits unit ID. I've never heard MODAT in the Toronto area at all -
like I said, its an old system.
Another system you might hear is GE-STAR. Its sounds like squawking,
but its a little more drawn out and raspy than MDC, and more annoying.
You can hear it a lot if you listen to the GO Buses.
Yet another system sounds like a really fast phone dialing. Its called
DTMF Speedcall. I've never heard this used outside of Taxis (listen to
Beck Taxi to hear this).
A good site to hear sound samples of all of these (as well as any other
digital mode you can think of) is: http://www.kb9ukd.com/digital/
Hope thats some help
bryan
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 14:46:48 -0500
From: ted hay <tedh1@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
Bryan wrote:
> If you hear a "SSQUAAAWK!", they're using whats called MDC1200. Its a
> proprietary Motorola signalling format. It transmits a 32 bit data
> packet at 1200 baud, and includes error correction. Its used for
> PTT-ID, emergency signalling, etc. Some mobile units also use this data
> to transmit GPS tracking on the cheap - a unit's location is updated
> everytime someone keys their radio.
>
its a very short squack the way I hear it, but annoying for me, I think the
system is supported by Spectrum Communications
Ted
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:24:24 -0500
From: Chris Fortner <forts@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
>If you hear a "SSQUAAAWK!", they're using whats called MDC1200. Its a
Yep... that's likely what it is. And I think you are right Ted,
Strathroy-Caradoc Police must use it too... I had just never really
thought about what data was being transmitted before.
Thanks all for the replies!
Chris Fortner
London, Ontario Canada
forts@rogers.com
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 17:32:07 -0500
From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
> Yep... that's likely what it is. And I think you are right Ted,
> Strathroy-Caradoc Police must use it too... I had just never really
> thought about what data was being transmitted before.
Yeah - sounds like they're using MDC. All those beeps and bloops you
hear mean something (unless you're a radio geek who has MDC programmed
into all of his radios just because they like the sound (grin)
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:29:39 -0500
From: "Mike Iszak" <mike@warpzone.ca>
Subject: Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
Yes, St. Thomas PD uses MDC1200 for their unit ID's.
Some radios have Pre-ID and some have Post-ID. Pre meaning the data burst is sent before the voice, Post meaning it's sent after the voice.
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:29:37 -0000
From: "jefflong99 <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>" <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>
Subject: Re: 410.4125 OPP URBAN Repeater
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Iszak" <mike@w...> wrote:
> Queens Park isn't done by the OPP anymore.
Yes, but the OPP still have police jurisdiction over provincial
government property and maintain a presence at buildings such as the
Supreme Court of Ontario etc.....
It appears from the short time I was monitoring that they use the
Legislative Security Dispatch at Queens Park as their comm centre.
Although it is for OPP use on 410.4125. The Leg Security does use a
TG on the TPD/TFD/TEMS system.
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:35:34 -0000
From: "jefflong99 <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>" <chopper9@mobile.rogers.com>
Subject: Durham Region Fire
I may be way behind here but I have noticed that since the Oshawa
Trunked system has gone region wide for fire that the plan number for
control channel only scanning has changed. It is now Plan 2. This
is of course for the 780 trunk tracker and the associated portable
version.
Go ahead and flame me if I'm delivering old news.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 18:47:31 -0500
From: rsh@idirect.com
Subject: Re: Durham Region Fire
Call me ignorant, but WHAT does region wide cover? While I know York and
have a good idea of Peel, I have no concept of the area east of Toronto and
what the Oshawa Trunked System covers. For that matter, I do not know what
to program into my PRO-95, if anything, that would enable me to hear
anything from east of Toronto. I also, since I do not have a 780, know what
plan 2 means. RS and Uniden have different approaches to trunk tracking,
after all.
Any info that would clarify it for me would be welcome...
RSH
On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:35:34 -0000, you wrote:
>I may be way behind here but I have noticed that since the Oshawa
>Trunked system has gone region wide for fire that the plan number for
>control channel only scanning has changed. It is now Plan 2. This
>is of course for the 780 trunk tracker and the associated portable
>version.
>
>Go ahead and flame me if I'm delivering old news.
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 20:56:49 -0500
From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: FA: Uniden BC760XLT Scanner
I've decided to put atleast one of the radios online for the time
being. The reserve price has been met so now it's open season for
anyone to get at it now.
Anyhow, if you'd like to bid on it, it's at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3006955493
Thanks,
Randy
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:10:54 -0800
From: "Terry Green" <ve3nsv@rogers.com>
Subject: Waterloo Region Edacs
I presently have my scanner online using the shoutcast server at http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/listen.pls and i am also streaming it through live 365 at http://www.live365.com/stations/117125 They are both being streamed using the SHOUTcast source plug-in. Any comments can be made to ve3nsv@rac.ca and if it seems busy enough i may leave it on live 365 full time.
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:33:42 -0500
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Digital Signalling (was: St. Thomas Police Question...)
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Bryan wrote:
> I've never heard MODAT in the Toronto area at all - like I said, its
> an old system.
Not that old. Toronto EMS used it on their VHF system to signal unit
status (on-scene, etc.). If I remember correctly, Durham Regional
Police used it too before they went all top-secret on us.
--
Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:47:21 -0500
From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Durham Region Fire
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 06:47 PM, rsh@idirect.com wrote:
> Call me ignorant, but WHAT does region wide cover?
Oshawa is part of the Regional Municipality of Durham, so I guess that
Jeff is referring to Durham wide coverage. That's quite a big region
though, extending all the way up to Lake Simcoe. I would expect that
coverage would likely include just the urbanized area of the south -
Pickering, Ajax, Whitby, Oshawa and Clarington.
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Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 04:09:00 -0000
From: "jets_1961 <jets1961@hotmail.com>" <jets1961@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: weather radio in Montreal
Yes I agree they were going to close the Winnipeg weather office and
do all of western Canada out of Alberta, but after a stink the
rescinded the closing. Yea I sure liked the old system. If you really
look at it safety is being sacrificed.
Joe
> The lack of discussion is cutbacks. At one time the Toronto station
> did forcasts for Simcoe, Orillia, way up north, hourly climate for
> cities in all Ontario and climate data. Since 1996 this has been
> sharply cut back.
> It is not a F/E thing
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> Eric
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 04:13:44 -0000
From: "jets_1961 <jets1961@hotmail.com>" <jets1961@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: St. Thomas Police Question...
Chris,
They probably have identifiers built into the radio. When they key up
you might hear it on the input, if you don't hear it on the output it
is because the squelch circuit suppress the burst.
Joe
> I was listening to St. Thomas PD last night as they were doing a
shift
> change... Officers would book on the air, and the dispatcher would
tell
> them to 'click their portable'... You'd hear the radio get keyed a
few
> times, then the dispatcher would say '10-4, you have portable
104'... How
> is this done? Is the radio transmitting a data burst of some
sort? They
> are not using a trunked system, just typical VHF....
>
>
> Chris Fortner
> London, Ontario Canada
> forts@r...
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