[Scanont] Digest Number 1533

From: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 06:24:18 EST


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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. RE: Intresting talk on TPS talkgroup 20240
           From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
      2. Re: Wild weather
           From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
      3. Re: Wild weather
           From: "mike_morassutti <mike@climetsystems.com>" <mike@climetsystems.com>
      4. Re: Re: Wild weather
           From: "Mel" <robinson4724@rogers.com>
      5. Re: Re: Wild weather
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
      6. Re: Re: Wild weather
           From: "Michael Fenech" <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
      7. Re: Wild weather
           From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
      8. Re: Re: Mobile Scanner Law
           From: Paul Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
      9. Re: Wild weather
           From: "mike_morassutti <mike@climetsystems.com>" <mike@climetsystems.com>
     10. Re: New GMCP frequency
           From: "David Reeves <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
     11. weather radio in Montreal
           From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
     12. Simulcast on Analog?
           From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
     13. RE: Simulcast on Analog?
           From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
     14. Re: weather radio in Montreal
           From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
     15. 1 possibly 2 Uniden BC760 XLT's For Sale
           From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>

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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:58:13 -0500
   From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
Subject: RE: Intresting talk on TPS talkgroup 20240

Apparently the TPS system is broken. The dispatcher said that they are
on backup and can't patch talk groups or use the emergency button. They
instructed normally patched groups to switch to one freq. Does anyone
know what happened?
 
 
Chris.

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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:15:10 -0500
   From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Wild weather

Thanks Steve. Looks like they also have ops in Barrie on 163.935 PL 110.9 as well.

J.

"Just watch me." Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Jones
  To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 20:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Scanont] Wild weather

  ...I believe that Barrie PUC is a separate entity from the City of Barrie and
  therefore not part of the trunk system. You can monitor their activities on
  165.615.

  --
  Steve sdjones@isys.ca

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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:23:44 -0000
   From: "mike_morassutti <mike@climetsystems.com>" <mike@climetsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Wild weather

 
> > Is it just me, or does when anyone else hit the 'WX' button on
> their
> > scanner, you ALWAYS seem to get the french forcast? Never fails
> for me....
>
Yes, I too always get the French TX when I tune.

Environment Canada switched over to bilingual WX TX's just last year.
Before that, just all English, repeating in about 5 min cycles. I
work in the field of weather - so I know this change was made, after
speaking with one responsible person, because of a government
mandate. Dual freqs for Eng/French would be better. Say, for example,
a severe storm was threatening in Ontario (where most people
speak English), but one had to wait until the completion of the
French TX. The timeliness is lost and there would be problems
if someone used a 162 MhZ WX frequency for emergency purposes,
if some activity is weather-sensitive, when a quick decision is
needed. etc. Most people (including myself), would not wait, and
just tune into an all-news commercial radio station where the
WX B-cast is every 10 min, about the same cycle length of the
new TX scheme.

Alterntive WX (continuous) channels would be marine, but
the emphasis is mainly on state of water and MAFOR codes
are used (not exactly suitable to the public). Monitor
CANWARN freqs for severe storm alerts as well.

Mike Morassutti/

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Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:35:25 -0500
   From: "Mel" <robinson4724@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Wild weather

I have not been in Quebec for a while but I have heard that the Weather stations there are not Bilingual but French only, is this true?

Mel
>Environment Canada switched over to bilingual WX TX's just last year.
Before that, just all English, repeating in about 5 min cycles. I
work in the field of weather - so I know this change was made

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Message: 5
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:51:34 -0500
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Wild weather

> Environment Canada switched over to bilingual WX TX's just last year.
> Before that, just all English, repeating in about 5 min cycles. I
> work in the field of weather - so I know this change was made, after
> speaking with one responsible person, because of a government
> mandate. Dual freqs for Eng/French would be better.

No, I agree. I used to always tune into WRC when I needed the forecast
or weather... now I just tune into one of the local airport's ATIS
broadcasts.. :)

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Bryan C. Passifiume, VE3HBD
Cell: (905) 867-2585
bryanpass@rogers.com

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Message: 6
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:54:36 -0500
   From: "Michael Fenech" <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Re: Wild weather

Yep. That's the Canadian way. Fair for everyone....

Montreal used to have one station full-time English and another full-time
French.

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Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mel" <robinson4724@rogers.com>
To: <scanont@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Scanont] Re: Wild weather
> I have not been in Quebec for a while but I have heard that the Weather
stations there are not Bilingual but French only, is this true?
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Message: 7
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:54:40 -0500
   From: "radio" <radio@slakeyourthirst.com>
Subject: Re: Wild weather
Unfortunately not right now. I just tried Scanrec and it's not working. I'm wondering if the problem is related to what I experienced lately with Invert. I got an error message with it saying my soundcard is already in use and asks if it is full duplex. As far as I can tell  It's supposed to be a SoundBlaster Pro 220 or equivalent.
Thanks anyway Mike.
J.
"Just watch me."  Pierre Elliot Trudeau 1970
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Iszak 
  To: scanont@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 19:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Scanont] Wild weather
  ....Can you record and upload a sample of it?  Or sent it to me  mike@warpzone.ca   and I'll take a peek for you.
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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:41:59 -0500
   From: Paul  Schmidt <pschmidt@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Mobile Scanner Law
On February 4, 2003 10:48 pm, "jets_1961 wrote:
>  If you do end up heading west into Manitoba, be aware that
>
> > there are regulations against it.
>
> More specific (Manitoba) do not mount the unit to vehicle and have a
> portable in the trunk or at least turned off. RCMP run APCO25 800 MHz
> digital, EMS analog.
>
> BTW if you are going to Ontario via Michigan beware, same as
> Minnesota. I always wondered how they get scanners to the store in
> those states if they can't be transported. (Grin)
>
Yes you can buy the scanner, but you have to leave it in the store, because 
you can't transport it home.  <double grin>
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Message: 9
   Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:06:14 -0000
   From: "mike_morassutti <mike@climetsystems.com>" <mike@climetsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Wild weather
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, "Mel" <robinson4724@r...> wrote:
> I have not been in Quebec for a while but I have heard that the 
Weather stations there are not Bilingual but French only, is this 
true?
> 
> Mel
I'm not sure about that one Mel. My asumption is that
bdcsts are almost exclusively in French.
I think the whole solution could be resolved by interrelating
population density of French and English speaking communities
with tower location (by radius, repeater extent, power of
transmitter, etc). 
If the population covered by the transmitted signal is predominantly 
French, then TXs in French... if English, then
English. Only in those communities where there are
comparable numbers (50/50 French/English, say, would the
current broadcast scheme be applicable, say in
some localities in the prairie provinces, the
Ontario-Quebec border, and so forth).
But judging by the bureacracy and slow to act on anything
nature of our federal government, it would take much
more than a letter to an MP to fix this situation. We
always follow the Americans (who are usually the first
on the scene and are more innovative). 
E.g.
- their SAME WX code alert
- they developed SKYWARN, we copied with CANWARN
....and all the rest of it.
Mike Morassutti/
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Message: 10
   Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:23:31 -0000
   From: "David Reeves <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>" <david.reeves@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: New GMCP frequency
It's probably about time more frequencies were added.  I have noticed 
all frequencies on the go many times while using Trunker.
I hate to think of the radio tie-ups when ambulances come on line.  
There will be a queue waiting for a free channel.  When I was at the 
original lecture many years ago for the GMCP they only planned then to 
have 4-5 frequencies per site.  That we all know is a fantasy.
D. Reeves
--- In scanont@yahoogroups.com, Michael Fenech <mfenech@s...> wrote:
> GMCP Site 5 (Ballinafad) has added 141.360.
> 
> --
> Mike
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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 01:34:06 -0000
   From: "Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca>" <ejb@cogeco.ca>
Subject: weather radio in Montreal
Michael. I grew up in Montreal and lived there until 1993. From the 
time I started listneing to radio in 1979 the Enviroment Canada 
weather radio frequency in English and French, not separate was 
162.55.
There was a station in St Hubert but I think that was bilingual also.
So, for 14 years (and I am 35) all I heard was a F/E station NEVER a 
separate one.
Cheers
Eric Bernstein
Hamilton
P.S It is great too listen to the weather in both languages. You 
learn a lot about the languages that way
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Message: 12
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:57:23 -0500
   From: Bryan <bryanpass@rogers.com>
Subject: Simulcast on Analog?
I was listening to the ole Bearcat tonight, and noticed that the 
divisional dispatches for Toronto Police were being simulcast on the HQ 
simplex analog channels.
You could only hear the dispatcher (no units).
Do they do this often? Normally the HQ channels are quiet...
bryan
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Message: 13
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:02:22 -0500
   From: "Chris's Newgroup Email" <group@irisreg.com>
Subject: RE: Simulcast on Analog?
They are having problems with the system and are using some sort of back
up.  They are also not able to patch either.
 
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan [mailto:bryanpass@rogers.com] 
Sent: February 5, 2003 10:57 PM
To: scanont@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Scanont] Simulcast on Analog?
I was listening to the ole Bearcat tonight, and noticed that the 
divisional dispatches for Toronto Police were being simulcast on the HQ 
simplex analog channels.
You could only hear the dispatcher (no units).
Do they do this often? Normally the HQ channels are quiet...
bryan
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Message: 14
   Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:15:39 -0500
   From: Michael Fenech <mfenech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: weather radio in Montreal
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:34  PM, Eric <ejb@cogeco.ca> 
wrote:
> There was a station in St Hubert but I think that was bilingual also.
I definitely recall English on one frequency and French on another.  
Perhaps it was the St. Hubert station and Montreal stations.  Both 
would be strong in the Montreal area.  I probably never listened long 
enough to realize that they were both bilingual.
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Michael Fenech
Toronto, Ontario
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Message: 15
   Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:14:44 -0500
   From: "Champ" <Champ@scanneraudio.com>
Subject: 1 possibly 2 Uniden BC760 XLT's For Sale
I have  2 BC760 XLT mobiles, w/no internal speaker, but has 
external speaker, no power cord or antenna, and no ctcss tone board 
(unfortunately).  Not sure, what type of price range I could get for 
these 2 radios that I have, they are excellent little radios, and 
work very good.  Whenever you've listened to my broadcasts, that's 
what was being used.
Oh and btw, the one with no backlight display does receive cellular 
band the one with the backlight display does not, however, you can 
get them using the image frequencies, in the 900 range.
If interested, make me (serious) offers, OFFLIST PLEASE and I'll see 
what I can do for you. Let me know which one you're interested in, 
or even both of them if that's the case.
I will post what the Radio Looks Like Also, to the groups. This is not 
the actual radio, but just a photo of one that is the same.
Thanks,
Randy
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